Re: Just how big is "known space"?

--- Ben Wafer <bwafer@????.ca> wrote:

> [Ben Wafer] Wait, what? Are you sure about that
> Adam? I thought the sphere-and-plane-spanning
> illithid empire was way older than that. The
> Illithiad has this to say about the collapse of the
> illithid empire: "In truth, the illithid loss was
> so great, that the mind flayers have not fully
> recovered from it, even millennia later." To me that
> places the fall of the illithid empire a minimum of
> 2,000 years ago (probably longer), which means
> that they must have popped up quite a bit earlier
> than that in order to build their massive empire
> in the first place. In fact, the Illithiad
> doesn't give any sort of firm timeline for the rise
> of the illithids, but it does include a couple of
> in-universe sources that imply that they've been
> around almost as long as elves.

Lords of Madness places the illithid empire in the
distant future, and according to the "Astronumdi
Chronicles" (or somesuch thing), the empire was being
crushed, so they fled back in time to 2,000 years ago
to recover.  Flying in the face of much canon that has
illithids long before that, such as many FR
entries...:p

Can't say I'm really sold on the idea, personally.  It
flies in the face of too much canon to be believable.

Adam

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