Re: Dragon Rock: fotos of the asteroid model

On the topic of not owning ptolus... I dont want to post it on the list 
for obvious reasons. If you dont mind getting the pdf ...well... not 
_quite_ legally, try this link: http://tinyurl.com/3bkkc7 ;o) 
I recommend the last link (788.98 MB).

In case you _do_ mind, well, please forget & delete this mail! ;o)

tauster
}:o)


On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:04:56 -0500, Loki <george.williams.iv@?????.com> 
wrote:

>TAuster,
>
>I have a number of businesses etc I just need to transcibe an organized
>version. (Its my first wedding anniversary this weekend so dont expect 'em
>yet!)
>
>As to reposting the Ptolus stuff on Flickr, they may not notice, but it is
>not actually legal unless the maps have been designated open content,
>copyleft, or creative commons. I was unable to afford Prolus when it came
>out and cant find a copy for less than $250 now so it will be awhile 
before
>I can check on that, read the fine print in the product.
>
>I quite like your more Bral like redesign and will be running with it. 
Will
>communicte soon.
>
>If I lose this in the chaos of deadline that is my life do what Dave S. 
does
>and give me a virtual poke.
>
>-Loki, off to Blog for the CEO now.....
>
>On 11/1/07, Tauster <chefseehund@???.de> wrote:
>>
>> There is not much done jet thats worth posting home about. I've worked 
my
>> way through thatotherguy's write-up months ago but lost momentum after
>> that because of exams, more exams and a traineeship abroad.
>>
>> I made the mistake of doing the city's map as the next step which very
>> effectively prevented any progress: its just damn hard to come up with a
>> detailed (waterdeep-style) map for a city two times 2 km broad and 10 km
>> long! The better way would have been to go on with small parts like NPC,
>> businesses and so on and leave the map for later.
>>
>> I already decided before the mapping phase that I have to abandon
>> thatotherguy's concept of a end-to-end city and insert more 'empty' 
green
>> areas in my version.
>> First, I see a large amount of vegetation as essential for air
>> regeneration (...Smith's Quarter, anyone?). I don't think that the 
forest
>> of the Elven Embassy, a few balcony plants and vegetation (berry-bushes,
>> grass and flower/herb beds) on the roofs is enough.
>> Second, the 12 landlords (who completely own the whole asteroid and rent
>> it out) would have their stately homes in huge surrounded-by-park 
estates.
>> They are the 'éminence grise' - the big shots in the background, and 
they
>> need a little more than just a big house somewhere in the city.
>> And finally, mapping out the Rock is just easier when you don't have to 
do
>> the whole damn thing! :o)
>>
>>
>> My solution for not doing a complete map was two-fold. For showing the
>> players the whole rock I came up with the pictures of the rock. Even
>> better: I can give them the stone as a physical handout! :o)
>>
>> For the detailed maps necessary for urban sessions I scavenged maps from
>> different sources. I used cut-outs from the huge Ptolus map with 
softened
>> borders:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/23109322@N00/sets/72157602842256639/
>>
>> (btw: I am not sure if its legal to upload these pics to flickr. I
>> obviously don't want to make money with it, but legal advise would be
>> welcomed nontheless!)
>>
>>
>> I'll also use maps from various Dungeon Magazines like the one of
>> Dockalong (Dungeon #89, p88) or Immurk's hold (Dungeon #66, p44). During
>> the google search I stumbled over a picture useful for the better part 
of
>> Kara-town: www.chinesegarden.com.au/map.cfm .
>>
>>
>> Other, non-graphical stuff I'll use comes from Dungeon #130: one list 
with
>> rumors and one with different prisoners (should the PC need to liberate
>> someone who got in trouble, or need to be rescued themselves...).
>>
>> What I mostly need are NPC, organizations and businesses. Examples for 
the
>> latter are: Stellar Glass Blowers (1), some stuff from the 'wildspace
>> mining'-discussion (2) and my own write-up of Knip's Waste management 
(3).
>>
>> (1) http://oracle.wizards.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind9911b&L=spelljammer-
>> l&P=4606
>> (2) http://oracle.wizards.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0503b&L=spelljammer-
>> l&P=9221
>> (3) http://oracle.wizards.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0709a&L=spelljammer-
>> l&D=0&P=77
>>
>>
>> ...and thats about it. As you can see, I am far from having a ready-for-
>> play version of the city. I still need tons of NPC, businesses and other
>> stuff! I guess I will plunder the business ideas and NPC contests from 
BtM
>> and other sources. I also guess I'll have plenty of time for that: 
Before
>> my players set foot on the docks of Dragon Rock, they have to clean up 
the
>> mess they caused in Halruaa (don't even aks! *grin*) and then go
>> through 'Wildspace' (SJA1).
>>
>> Tauster
>> }:o)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:19:16 -0500, Loki <george.williams.iv@?????.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I would be most interested to see the work you have already done on
>> Dragon
>> >Rock. I am "seat of the pants-ing" it with my PCs while they are
>> there ....
>> >-Loki
>> >
>> >On 10/31/07, Tauster <chefseehund@???.de> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't have the time right now to continue writing on my version of
>> >> Dragon Rock (heck, I don't even have the time to work on Mirrorspace!
>> >> *sniff*), and so I forgot these pictures completely: I did 'em in 
late
>> >> summer when I was trying to find a stone that has the approximate 
shape
>> of
>> >> the asteroid (as per thatotherguy's write-up and what we know from
>> canon).
>> >> This is the best I came up with:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/23109322@N00/tags/dragonrock/
>> >>
>> >> The reason for those pictures was that I utterly failed to do a
>> reasonably
>> >> useful drawing, not an excessive liability to realism! ;o) I was
>> looking
>> >> for a piece of rubble that sported some interesting features, and I
>> think
>> >> this one does.
>> >>
>> >> If you look at the picture 'Dragon Rock asteroid - topside tilted',
>> you'll
>> >> see several 'terraces'. I imagine they could be great 'dry docks', 
but
>> >> I'll wait for more suggestions from you all, not only for
>> the 'terraces'.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1815284105&size=l
>> >>
>> >> Eventually I'll edit the pictures for use in my campaign, 
substituting
>> the
>> >> white background with black. Later I'll probably put some locations 
on
>> >> them (just using thin line that ends where (for example) the 
Government
>> >> Hill sits) - nothing fancy like projecting a _real_ city map - that's
>> way
>> >> beyond my graphic fu! If someone likes that stone enough to render 
it*
>> -
>> >> feel free!
>> >>
>> >> If you find them good enough for 'semi-official' use, I can add them 
to
>> >> the spelljammer group on flickr as well. Even if they don't fit for
>> Dragon
>> >> Rock, they are still interesting enough for other asteroid 
settlements,
>> I
>> >> guess.
>> >>
>> >> * I'm aaabsolutely NOT looking into any specific direction, or point 
to
>> >> certain users with professional graphic skills... ;o)
>> >>
>> >> Tauster
>> >> }:o)
>> >>
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