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From:     Charles Taylor <nerik@?????????.?????.??.uk>
Date:     Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:02:26 +0100
Subject:  Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query
In message <a06110403c2fcee1000f3@[71.62.229.47]>
          Paul Westermeyer <westermeyer@???????.net> wrote:

> 
> Here's the material, a small section of my larger project.
> 
> Phlogiston Transit Times
> 
>         Canon travel time in the Phlogiston is 10-100 days between
> spheres, but some of the travel times between spheres have been
> documented in various sources.  This list shows known times, in
> alphabetical order based on the sphere of departure.  Note, there is
> plenty of reason to believe that these times are variable, a DM would
> be well within his rights to adjust the actual time traveled by 1d6
> SJD +/-.
> 
> Casaspace to Herdspace: 29 SJD {The Maelstrom's Eye, p160}
> Darnannon to Pirtel: 45 SJD {Dungeon #36 'The Sea of Sorrow'}
> Krynnspace to Realmspace: 53 SJD {Into the Void, p168}
> Heartspace to Nex: 17 SJD {The Broken Sphere, pp90-91}
> Nex to Vistaspace: 30-35 SJD (passing Pathspace and Primespace) {The
> Broken Sphere, p202}
> The Pearls to Ouiyanspace: 23 SJD {The Broken Sphere, p????}
> Pirtel to Darnannon: 38 SJD {Dungeon #36 'The Sea of Sorrow'}
> Pirtel to Refuge: 43 SJD {Dungeon #36 'The Sea of Sorrow'}
> Realmspace to Refuge: 7 SJD {Dungeon #36 'The Sea of Sorrow'}
> Realmspace to Winterspace: 45 SJD {The Radiant Dragon, p155}
> Refuge to Pirtel: 30 SJD {Dungeon #36 'The Sea of Sorrow'}
> Refuge to Realmspace: 7 SJD {Dungeon #36 'The Sea of Sorrow'}
> Vistaspace to the Pearls: 90 SJD (passing Primespace) {The Broken
> Sphere, p307-8}
> Winterspace to Heartspace: 30 SJD {The Broken Sphere, p13}
> 
> 
Thanks very much! however, there is something about the travel times 
in "The Broken Sphere" (the only one of the books I've been able to 
get hold of recently) that I think you should know:

On page 14 it states that Teldin could use the cloak to spelljam a 
ship at 'more than four times normal spelljamming speed' and was 
helming the ship for twelve hours out of every twenty four. So he's 
travelling on average over twice as fast as a fully-manned normal 
spelljammer.

Later in the book in a couple of places they take on additional 
helmsmen, in both cases, they hire on a pair (They seem to get through 
helmsmen at quite a rate :-), whether Teldin is sticking to his 
12-hour shifts and the remaining helmsmen take 6 hours each, or all 
three take 8 hours each is never stated. The first case gives an 
average daily speed over 2 and a half times normal, while the latter 
gives a speed of over twice normal.

Further complications: For the first run of the book (Winterspace to 
Heartspace) Teldin is just getting up to speed (and, we can presume, 
is travelling slower), however, it states on page 13 that he had been 
travelling for 'three weeks..., give or take' (According to "Tales of 
the Lance" Krynn uses 7-day weeks), at which point he had been in 
Heartspace for an undetermined amount of time. This trip started from 
the world of Whyst in Winterspace, how many days were needed to travel 
from Whyst to the flow are also unknown.

Fortunately, most of the remaining journey times in "The Broken 
Sphere" are given as Sphere wall to sphere wall. I don't know if the 
times in the other books are the same, (but the travel time for 
Krynnspace to Realmspace should be, as it is 39 days from Krynn to the 
flow, and 30 days from Toril to the flow).

A Few other travel times I've found:

Herospace to Faeriespace: 9 days ("Crystal Spheres", page 17)
Faerispace to Herospace: 15 days ("Crystal Spheres", page 27) (Now 
from the context, they might have meant Greatspace, but they do say 
Herospace twice, I wonder if something got cut. Using the Astromundi 
map, they would need to return to Herospace to get to Greatspace)

These have undefined start points, but do give travel times:

<Starting Sphere> to The Dead Shell Sphere: 25 days ("Skull and 
Crossbows", page 45) One of the possible starting locations given is 
the Rock of Bral.

<Starting Sphere> to Shadowspace: 10+2d4 days ("Heart of the Enemy", 
page 30) (Page 7 gives a journey time of about three weeks)
Shadowspage to Moragspace: 1d4+5 days ("Heart of the Enemy", page 82) 
(Page 7 gives a time of about a week)
Moragspace to <Starting Space>: about three weeks ("Heart of the 
Enemy", page 7).
The module suggests using Realmspace or Greyspace as the starting 
sphere, but I have reservations about putting Moragspace that close 
in.

I hope this all helps.
-- 
Charles
I am neither former president of Liberia or the leader of flight 19!


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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Charles Taylor    01 Sep 2007 20:02:26
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Paul Westermeyer    02 Sep 2007 13:58:00
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Charles Taylor    02 Sep 2007 15:35:43
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Loki    02 Sep 2007 17:39:52
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Matt Hoffman    02 Sep 2007 18:40:17
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Charles Taylor    02 Sep 2007 23:11:20
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Loki    03 Sep 2007 12:57:44
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Adam Miller    03 Sep 2007 13:31:45
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Paul Westermeyer    03 Sep 2007 13:58:18
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Paul Westermeyer    03 Sep 2007 14:03:22
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Charles Taylor    03 Sep 2007 16:07:30
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Blackmaer    03 Sep 2007 16:17:25
Re: Travel Times was: Cloakmaster Cycle query    Charles Taylor    03 Sep 2007 18:38:17

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