Re: Planejammer

From: "The Selin" <the_selin101us@?????.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 6:16 PM


> Planejammer ship
> Interesting, normal spacejammer ships cannot breach the planes, but some 
> special ship can. I will write a high level adventure including a 
> planejammer ship.

I was talking to Loki about this a long time ago. I can't remember who came 
up with what, but as Planewalkers use "keys" to get between planes, we 
though that Planejammers would need keys for their ships to make the jump.

So part of the process is discovering what the keys are and how to use them. 
The Pirates of Gith and the Astromundi Cluster provide a couple of clues.

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The Pirates of Gith are said to steal elven ships, because they can take 
them to the Astral Plane. I would argue that means that either the elven 
ships or the Gith are the key. Because the Pirates of Gith don't do this 
with other ships, I would say that the nature of elven ships is the key.

Coincidentally, Clusterspace stops non-elven ships leaving the sphere. 
Clusterspace has an unusual relationship to its planes and I would therefore 
take a logical jump and infer that the crystal sphere needs the same key as 
the Astral Plane.

I think that key is a living ship. So I would argue that The Spelljammer and 
Smalljammers can also leave Clusterspace or be taken onto the Astral Plane.

(I would also argue that if a Radiant Dragon can grab any other ship and tow 
it then the ship can be treated as an "attended object". So I would let a 
Radiant Dragon take a non-living ship out of Clusterspace or, if it can make 
the hop, onto the Astral Plane.)

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Something else might be needed on top of the key, to take a ship onto the 
Astral Plane but I would say we have one key on our keyring. And if you can 
work through the other planes, you can look for keys for taking ships onto 
them too.

> About Blood War
> I think that either baatezu or tannari who meet will wage war against each 
> other, even if they cross swords in outer space, Krynnspace or whatever. 
> It's in their blood.

Baatezu or Tannari from the Great Wheel probably would fight. But I'm 
arguing that they wouldn't normally get to Krynnspace because of the Barrier 
of Krynnspace. If there are Baatezu or Tannari native the Krynnspace's 
Abyss, they would serve the evil gods of the Holy Orders of the Stars and 
may not be so likely to be at war with each other.

> Celestians
> Celestians as they have knowledge of spelljamming travel also of 
> planetravel. I remember clerics of Celestian in Sigil, and the god is also 
> in the Planescape boxed set.

Celestians are definately the number one experts in Planejamming. I think 
that some will specialise in Planewalking and others will specialise in 
Spelljamming. The Celestians who engage in Planejamming are probably a small 
sub-set of the church.

> About Zivilyn
> I think Zivilyn as an old world trying to defy the gods, in a way that 
> must be destroyed, or maybe the Zivilyn's gods are trying to defy the 
> order of the outer planes .

I would argue that the gods of Dragonlance are worshiped throughout 
Krynnspace. Although, they may have been called by different names on each 
world. So the Zivilyn pantheon should be a reinterpretation of the Holy 
Orders of the Stars.

> Something like trying to arrange prime material worlds into one, or build 
> their own outer plane.

They certainly wouldn't need to space. Zivilyn was a massive planet before 
it went pop.

I'm not so sure that people living on the Material Plane would need to build 
their own Outer Plane. Doing something like making Zivilyn hop to the Dome 
of Creation, could be seen as a way to achive immortality in paradise, but 
I'm not sure that making a *new* Outer Plane would have any advantages. What 
sort of Outer Plane were you thinking of?

> So anything that happened must explain the severed conection of Krynn with 
> the Great Wheel- maybe the severed connection its part of the Zivilyn 
> punishment- and some debris surely remain.

Maybe they tried to bring some of the gods of the Great Wheel to Krynnspace! 
:-)

I've got an idea about that. I'll try to work out the bumps and post it.

David "Big Mac" Shepheard
Virtual Eclipse Role Playing Club
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