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From:     Steven <steven.james.1@??????????.??.uk>
Date:     Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:15:38 +0100
Subject:  Re: Planejammer
But is it a *negative* opinion, hm? It's just a different opinion, IMHO
:)

Negative would be a bigoted, nasty or otherwise "bad" opinion based on
ignorance or bad morals/ethics.

On the one hand, saying that "Arcane" share a name with a type of magic
and that causes possible problems, is valid, BUT...why shouldn't a race
be called after what they seem to be very intertwined with? :)
Like, Spellweavers..they "weave spells"...logical?
The Arcane seem to have some secret ability to craft Arcane
devices....thus, they are synonymous with both trade, and crafting
arcane items.

"Arcane" sounds more mysterious, Mercane sounds more aquatic or simply
mercantile.

I'm not a "stick in the mud" ;) I preffer the later editions of (A)D&D,
but some things from previous eras WERE better. As said elsewhere too, I
think the very first boxed sets for the Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft and
Dark Sun were the best, largely because forcing change down players'
throats is abominable, much of what they changed/added was dumb
(official history of Athas is retarded and so was killing off the
Sorceror kings!!!), and especially for the Forgotten Realms, prostituted
the setting and totally ruined the mystery, by describing every bloody
bit of it so NOTHING was "Forgotten", lol!!
-Many add-ons were good, such as Dune Trader for Dark Sun, but when they
changed important things, they threw spanners in campaigns. 
-Another factor is quality, the 1st Forgotten Realms boxed set is a true
work of art, beautifully printed, illustrated and written. The last
boxed set TSR released for the Realms, 3rd iirc, was excrement! Art
work, printing values and layout were shoddy beyond belief. Sigh :(
-Good things in current 3rd ed are much better layout of the books, far
better referenced and organized, the artwork of the 3 core books
including page printing is pleasurable, reading them is a tactile/visual
joy.


Another point to remember when chatting across the Net, is to use
smilies...even if it seems infantile at times, it's vital, because the
intent of a person's words can come across totally wrong, as we can't
see the other person wink, grasp subtle sarcasm, may not be a native
English speaker and so on ;)
-Some folk seem hurt by my dislike of 1st/2nd ed, I'm sorry, there was
no sleight made against them as *people*! :) In such arguments, I tend
to think the problem folk forget is that it's like comparing driving a
modern car, to one form say, the 1950s. The older car may well have had
better style, but a lot of the charm is really nostalgia, enjoyment of
what was a new concept, wide open roads not jam packed full of "Magic
the Blasted Card game" players and so on, hehe! The mechanics *do*
improve, but that's not the be all and end all of what we each enjoy to
play, I know, but a modern car *is* generlaly miles more comfortable and
reliable, whether folk like it or not. Also, some folk have views
against WOTC...which I find odd as TSR especially near the end, were
lead by proto-typical corporate sociopaths (in the sense of profit
before all, including good business sense, ironically) who damned near
destroyed D&D forever. I've heard plenty of dumb things WOTC/Hasborg
(you will be assimilated! :>) have done too, ick. But *currently*, and I
say that guardedly, they are keeping our hobby alive. Which is good for
all of us :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Spelljammer Setting Discussion
[mailto:SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com] On Behalf Of Bill Olander
Sent: 26 August 2007 13:22
To: SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com
Subject: Re: [SPELLJAMMER] Planejammer

Yeah Sorry.
I realized after I was in bed last night that the way to fight against
negative opinions was not in fact to be cranky. I came up with a better
idea.
-- 
Bill Olander
http://www.darktouch.net

On 8/26/07, Loki <george.williams.iv@?????.com> wrote:
>
> Bill and Matt:
> keep the discussion civil and free from personal slurs.
>
> We are all here because of a common interest in SJ and if we all
agreed
> with
> each other on everything there would be no need for this e-list.
>
> Thanks!
> Loki




 

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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
Re: Planejammer    David Shepheard    23 Aug 2007 22:02:30
Re: Planejammer    The Selin    25 Aug 2007 17:16:52
Re: Planejammer    Steven    25 Aug 2007 18:11:25
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    25 Aug 2007 19:34:45
Re: Planejammer    Steven    25 Aug 2007 20:07:30
Re: Planejammer    Michael Shell    25 Aug 2007 21:36:47
Re: Planejammer    David Shepheard    25 Aug 2007 23:22:19
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    25 Aug 2007 23:43:11
Re: Planejammer    Bill Olander    26 Aug 2007 02:03:34
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    26 Aug 2007 02:28:36
Re: Planejammer    Michael Shell    26 Aug 2007 02:29:11
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    26 Aug 2007 02:31:03
Re: Planejammer    Michael Shell    26 Aug 2007 02:57:38
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    26 Aug 2007 03:08:22
Re: Planejammer    Rodger Burns    26 Aug 2007 03:13:21
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    26 Aug 2007 03:14:50
Re: Planejammer    Michael Shell    26 Aug 2007 03:20:39
Re: Planejammer    Bill Olander    26 Aug 2007 03:26:17
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    26 Aug 2007 03:28:44
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    26 Aug 2007 03:30:39
Re: Planejammer    Loki    26 Aug 2007 06:09:02
Re: Planejammer    Paul Westermeyer    26 Aug 2007 06:29:46
Re: Planejammer    Bill Olander    26 Aug 2007 12:22:28
Re: Planejammer    Steven    26 Aug 2007 13:15:38
Re: Planejammer    Bill Olander    26 Aug 2007 13:49:27
Re: Planejammer    Blackmaer    26 Aug 2007 15:18:17
Re: Planejammer    Bill Olander    26 Aug 2007 14:43:49
Re: Planejammer    Steven    26 Aug 2007 16:19:51
Re: Planejammer    Asa Benjamin Winkler    26 Aug 2007 17:40:39
Re: Planejammer    Loki    26 Aug 2007 17:42:35
Re: Planejammer    Blackmaer    26 Aug 2007 19:47:08
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    27 Aug 2007 02:57:57
Re: Planejammer    Loki    27 Aug 2007 03:50:15
Re: Planejammer    David Shepheard    28 Aug 2007 19:01:11
Re: Planejammer    David Shepheard    28 Aug 2007 20:17:32
Re: Planejammer    Charles Taylor    28 Aug 2007 20:34:38
Re: Planejammer    Charles Taylor    28 Aug 2007 20:33:30
Re: Planejammer    David Shepheard    28 Aug 2007 22:41:22
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    29 Aug 2007 00:39:10
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    29 Aug 2007 00:42:52
Re: Planejammer    Matt Hoffman    29 Aug 2007 00:48:06
Re: Planejammer    Loki    29 Aug 2007 03:01:15
Re: Planejammer    Michael Shell    29 Aug 2007 05:48:38
Re: Planejammer    David Shepheard    29 Aug 2007 22:20:24
Re: Planejammer    Paul Westermeyer    29 Aug 2007 22:59:14
Re: Planejammer    David Shepheard    30 Aug 2007 01:09:14
Re: Planejammer    Michael Shell    30 Aug 2007 01:14:50
Re: Planejammer    Loki    30 Aug 2007 00:11:49
Re: Planejammer    Michael Shell    30 Aug 2007 01:07:52
Re: Planejammer    David Shepheard    30 Aug 2007 19:07:00
Re: Planejammer    David Shepheard    30 Aug 2007 19:36:50
Re: Planejammer    Charles Taylor    03 Sep 2007 18:49:55
Re: Planejammer    David Shepheard    29 Sep 2007 21:04:58

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