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From:     Steven <steven.james.1@??????????.??.uk>
Date:     Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:05:54 +0100
Subject:  Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?
Well, a plain old chimp is stronger than a human ;)

Wingflaps would have to be connected, or they couldn't work, check other
such rl creatures.
Armour fastened like that would move around to much, you need the fastening
or shape to hold to the rib cage, otherwise it flaps around, and is thus
uncomfortable, and less useful.
Bit of a catch 22?

Aye the ambidexterity was cool! :)
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[mailto:SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com] On Behalf Of Edward Swing
Sent: 24 July 2007 13:05
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Subject: Re: [SPELLJAMMER] Hadozee for 3rd ed?

 Personally, I don't like the "muscular" concept of hadozee. As gliders,
they should be more lithe (IMO).

Hadozee could conceivably wear armor that was made for them, since the wing
flaps are actually not connected to their torso directly (at least in the
original illustrations). A chain mail vest, for instance, could be modified
to go over the head and then buckle around the waist. Essentially it would
be more like a chain mail poncho.

I always will consider the hadozee to look like the original lean
illustrations in the Spacefarer's handbook. The orangutan-style hadozee of
Stormwrack could be a groundling variant. The original hadozee were also
tall - frequently around 7 feet tall.

One of the aspects of the hadozee that I liked (that was dropped from the
Stormwrack writeup) was their inherent ambidexterity (or multidexterity). I
enjoyed the idea of fighting with a sword held with my foot. I even used a
Lego monkey with cutlasses (one in a hand, one in a foot) to represent my
hadozee character for a while.


 


 

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From: Steven <steven.james.1@??????????.??.uk>
To: SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com
Sent: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 9:43 am
Subject: [SPELLJAMMER] Hadozee for 3rd ed?










After looking at the versions on SJ.org and Stormwrack, I’ve got some
problems, hence the re-worked Hadozee in my character pic.

1) Hadozee are supposed to weight 200-250lbs “most of it muscle”…this would
suggest a strong creature, yet no strength bonus. Doesn’t add up…either
they’d need to be smaller less muscly, or get +2 STR bonus?

2) Their wing flaps would prevent wearing chest armour. They couldn’t use
them AND have armour, you couldn’t pierce them because they’d rip in flight.
So armour would be either very uncomfortable, or unusable. Thus I’d suggest
giving them Natural AC, either +4, to make up for no armour, or +1 AC / 2 HD
for a more balanced approach?

3) The original hadozee pic looked like a sort of baboon//monkey creature,
where as the Stormwrack creature looks more like an orangutan type of ape.
Which should we go with? I had to use a Spider monkey-looking ape creature
for render, because I don’t have a baboon or orangutan model, and is more
“hadozee” like to my mind than a baboon or gorilla…and grommams are
gorilla-like, not hadozee.

Hm? :)

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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Steven    21 Jul 2007 13:43:23
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Michael Shell    24 Jul 2007 05:26:30
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Edward Swing    24 Jul 2007 12:05:09
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Matt Hoffman    24 Jul 2007 14:10:04
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Steven    24 Jul 2007 17:03:40
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Steven    24 Jul 2007 17:05:54
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Static    24 Jul 2007 19:10:50
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    David Shepheard    24 Jul 2007 19:37:42
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    David Shepheard    24 Jul 2007 20:25:47
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Loki    25 Jul 2007 12:56:24
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Matt Hoffman    25 Jul 2007 19:14:39
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Steven    25 Jul 2007 23:33:02
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Loki    26 Jul 2007 01:25:31
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    David Shepheard    26 Jul 2007 01:49:08
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Edward Swing    26 Jul 2007 11:21:13
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Matt Hoffman    23 Jul 2007 23:23:46
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Loki    26 Jul 2007 23:10:15
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Edward Swing    01 Aug 2007 00:56:20
Re: Hadozee for 3rd ed?    Static    02 Aug 2007 01:59:51

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