Re: Beholder Tyrant Ship deck-plans

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          Adam Miller <night_druid3000@?????.com> wrote:

> --- Charles Taylor <nerik@?????????.?????.??.uk>
> wrote:
> 
> Heh, time to be a party-pooper ;)
> 
> I just have to say I'm not overly fond of the
> tyrantship nor the scout.  The design never really
> appealed to me, and it kinda seems overkill to have
> 20+ beholders on one ship.  Plus the designs just
> aren't very SJ-ish...they really don't look like
> anything :p
> 
> I think the biggest drawback to the beholder designs
> is that they don't really use the beholder eye powers
> very well...with their charm eyes, I'd expect a
> beholder ship to have fewer true beholders (say 2-5,
> tops), more beholder-kin (which are completely
> ignored), and a number of charmed slaves (goblin-kin,
> humans, halflings, etc).  Maybe a few conventional
> weapons, maybe some more "wierd" weapons.
> 
> Anyways, just some ramblings :)
> 
> 
>> Second question: ATM I think that 'flattening out'
>> the internal 'bowl' of the tyrant ship and showing
>> it from the front is probably the most useful way to
>> depict the floorplans - does anyone agree, or have a
>> better way to do this?
> 
> Other than simply drawing it & accepting it won't be
> really "displayable" as a true deckplan, no, not
> really.  On the right track, though.
> 
> Adam
> 
Ok, I've had some more thoughts about this, taking a 'standard' 23 ton 
tyrant ship, and assuming that beholders have the same life support 
requirement as humans (big assumption - I think the hive mother, at 
least, should count as two). The minimum crew is listed as 15, with a 
max of 23.
A crew break-down could be:
Minimum
1 hive mother (counts as 2)
4 orbi (gives SR 4)
4 'true' beholders
5 slaves/lesser beholderkin

Maximum
1 hive mother (counts as 2)
5 orbi (gives SR 5)
5 'true' beholders
11 slaves/lesser beholderkin

I think that beholders would, given an opportunity, max out their crew 
with expendables (lesser beholderkin and/or dominated slaves) to have 
a supply of strong backs / cannon fodder / extra food.

Bigger ships have a greater proportion of expendables, as well as the 
occasional specialist beholder-kin.

Ok, what does this mean for the deck plan, taking the 'bowl' shaped 
hull, the 'top' deck shows the inside of the bowl. The 'base' of the 
bowl is thickened, and includes a slave/cargo deck with a reversed 
gravity to the 'top' deck.
-- 
Charles
When you said he was acting odd, you did not specify "Miniature 
Spacetime Singularity" odd!