Re: Krynnspace inconsistency

>>You can find this, with footnotes, in my timeline.
>
>Thanks Paul. I had forgotten that you had made this (doh!). It is 
>really fantastic! I hope that Static includes it in a SJCS PDF at 
>some point in the future. (I can see myself sitting down with a 
>calculator to convert all the dates to DL and FR dates to make it 
>easier to compare this timeline to the DLCS (and FRCS). I'd like to 
>work out when *all* the empires and organisations on Ansalon (and 
>after that Talidas) were at their peek (and therefore more likely to 
>have some sort of presence in the rest of Krynnspace).

5043 OC=581 CY=358 AC=1361 DR=2611 Shou=465 AV=856 TU=9/1299 AC

If you have that and know the calender no sweat.  for example, for 
Krynnspace, post-cataclysm.  5043-358=4685.  So, to discover the AC 
Krynn date of an OC event, just subtract 4685 from the OC event.

Example: 5049 OC; 5049-4685= 364, so 5049 OC = 364 AC

Just reverse that to get the OC date from an AC date.

Example: 383 AC; 383 + 4685= 5068 ie 5068 OC


>Would it be possible for you to add the other dates (BC/AC for DL 
>and DR for FR) in brackets, next time you revise this, as that would 
>help other people who want to use/improve Krynnspace and Realmspace.)


It's already like that.  Dates in the 'home' calender appear at the 
end of each entry for Forgotten Realms, Kara-Tur, Greyhawk, 
Dragonlance, Astromundi Cluster, and (I believe) Crystal Spheres and 
Vodoni.

The caveat is that the item must not be a Spelljammer specific item. 
The current year for SJR7 is only of interest to Spelljammers, so no 
AC year.  The actual entries below, with an entry for Greyhawk as an 
additional example of a specific groundling event which I considered 
momentous and global enough to merit mention in the SJ timeline.


5043
[SJ/DL] Novel: Beyond the Moons (358 AC)
{Beyond the Moons, p76}

5049
[SJ] Current year of SJR7 Krynnspace
{SJR7 Krynnspace, pp 51, 68}

5048
[GH] On Oerth, Canon Hazen uses the Crook of Rao to drive demons out 
of Flanaess.
Nefarious armies across Oerth are greatly weakened. (586 CY)
{The Adventure Begins, pp19, 27}

>I saw those two events in the timeline, but you don't seem to have 
>specuated a date for the port to open. I'd say that we should tie it 
>in to Teldin Moore and have it open shortly after he leaves.  I 
>*suppose* that the events on Krynn in Beyond the Moons may have 
>renewed interest in Krynn and brought several SJ groups to 
>Palanthus/Palanthas. So, we could make both products "right" by 
>doing that.

I _don't_ speculate, as a rule.  In a few cases I made educated 
guesses, but those were all clearly marked with an  @ symbol.

I honestly believe there is no reason to do anything regarding 
Palanthus.  None of the entries in SJR7 or WCC are some massive as to 
require explaining.  the problems are all problems of scale.  Just 
leave it as is, GMs will ignore as they wish.

But then, I find Krynnspace generally to get far more attention than 
it deserves.  It's a poor sphere, with relatively few adventuring 
opportunities and myriad difficulties in regards to running a 
traditional SJ campaign in the sphere. To top it off, the world is 
going to definitely just disappear in the future!

More trouble than its worth.  Just use Krynnspace as a source sphere 
for cool things like tinker gnomes and kender, and let it be as 
background.  I'd love to see the sort of work we get on Krynnspace 
applied to Greyspace, or Mystaraspace.


-- 
"...How shall a man judge what to do in such times?!"
"As he has ever judged," said Aragorn "Good and evil have not changed 
since yesteryear..."
J.R.R. Tolkien, _The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers_

Paul Westermeyer,  westermeyer@???????.net