Re: Krynnspace inconsistency

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Westermeyer" <westermeyer@???????.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: [SPELLJAMMER] Krynnspace inconsistency


> I'm not generally interested in apologizing for XXXXspace books, and 
> Krynspace is not an exception.

You are not the only person to have issues with SJR7. That is why we started 
the recent discussion about Krynnspace. I already know you think there is 
not enough DL or SJ flavor, but if you have a list of specific things that 
you need fixing I'd love to hear what they are.

> But someone mentioned a contradiction  in SJR7 listing Palanthus as a 
> Spelljamming port, while in the first novel, Teldin Moore finds no one 
> there who knows anything of spelljamming.

That someone was me.

> In fact, the port could have been founded after Teldin's visit.
>
> Teldin visited Palanthus in  358 AC (5043 OC).  SJR7 is dated to 364 AC 
> (5049 OC).  Palanthus is also mentioned in the War Captain's Companion, 
> which is dated to  361 AC (5046 OC).

That makes sense.

> I actually dislike the idea of Palanthus as a Spelljammer port (I love the 
> Minotaur port on Taladas, though).  But this does easily eliminate the 
> contradiction.

Me too. DL fans that dislike Spelljammer seem to see the port as a really 
stupid idea. I wish that SJR7 had put the Ansalon port in Mount Nevermind 
(where it wouldn't really do any damage).

> You can find this, with footnotes, in my timeline.

Thanks Paul. I had forgotten that you had made this (doh!). It is really 
fantastic! I hope that Static includes it in a SJCS PDF at some point in the 
future. (I can see myself sitting down with a calculator to convert all the 
dates to DL and FR dates to make it easier to compare this timeline to the 
DLCS (and FRCS). I'd like to work out when *all* the empires and 
organisations on Ansalon (and after that Talidas) were at their peek (and 
therefore more likely to have some sort of presence in the rest of 
Krynnspace). Would it be possible for you to add the other dates (BC/AC for 
DL and DR for FR) in brackets, next time you revise this, as that would help 
other people who want to use/improve Krynnspace and Realmspace.)

I saw those two events in the timeline, but you don't seem to have specuated 
a date for the port to open. I'd say that we should tie it in to Teldin 
Moore and have it open shortly after he leaves.  I *suppose* that the events 
on Krynn in Beyond the Moons may have renewed interest in Krynn and brought 
several SJ groups to Palanthus/Palanthas. So, we could make both products 
"right" by doing that.

SJR7 talks about Spacefarer's establishing churches, so I'd say that divine 
intervention (by the local gods) would probably be inevitable at some stage. 
Dragonhelm's Guide has this port (and the one in Taladas) getting blown up 
by the Dragonfleet in 383 AC (I'm not sure what that is in OC) so we can 
"reinvent" this port as something that is only open for a few years. The 
local population can be put off of Spelljamming by the Dragonfleet attack 
and loose interest in Spelljamming again. (We could use Spelljamming 
versions of Krynn organisations (and even the local branch of the EIN) to 
enforce a blockade of Spelljammers on Ansalon after that date.)

(I love that minotaur port in Taladas too. I don't think that conflicts with 
the DL setting as much as the one in Palanthus/Palananthas and your 
Tauruspace crystal sphere really fits in well with the port - I can imagine 
minotaur traffic between the the two crystal spheres. We will have to 
consider  "rebuilding" it when we finish dealing with Ansalon and move on to 
tackling the Taladas of the 5th Age.)

David "Big Mac" Shepheard
Virtual Eclipse Role Playing Club
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