Re: Canon + non-canon - Was: Spelljammer NPCs

i started this listing of canon stuff on my website at one time broken down
into people (the Rogues Gallery), and a listing of organizations
(spacefaring organizations), so there is some work done in this. I don't
remember where i left off, but you all are welcome to it for the wiki. i'm
shutting down my webstite since i really don't maintain it and haven't
played SJ in years. Static is going to take over hosting the site on the
Lost Spheres part of Beyond the Moons, so all the spheres, maps, and other
bits aren't lost. My website is still up I've been waiting on Static to say
he's got all he needs from it before I close it, so if you want to use any
of the stuff i've compiled for the wiki project be my guest, i think the
only non-canon bit in there is a NPC that Adam made up one time, but it
should all be canon. I was a stickler for that at one time, and even the
maps and spheres are canon stuff, the exception is the maps, on map 1 it's
pretty much all canon reference except for where I made some choices to
place stuff as they were mentioned in the novels and stuff, map 2 was my
campaign map and it's not as strict to canonical placement. I've got all the
SJ, and SJ-related stuff that was ever put into print and that's what I used
to compile this stuff.



On 2/5/07, David Shepheard <david_shepheard@???????.com> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Loki" <george.williams.iv@?????.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [SPELLJAMMER] Canon + non-canon - Was: Spelljammer NPCs
>
>
> > Once Mardi Gras is over I should have the time to do some work on that.
> I
> > work on the ThinkNOLA New Orleans Wiki. (
> > http://thinknola.com/wiki/New_Orleans_Wiki )
>
> That wiki looks to be organised well. Sounds like you lot know what you
> are
> doing.
>
> > I think that the *only* way to do this would be to use Adam's idea of
> > doing
> >> things in chunks. We would need to find a way to prioritise the work
> that
> >> means that meaningful information gets onto the wiki at a pace that
> works
> >> for amateurs. We would need someone (hopefully someone on the SJ
> Council)
> >> to
> >> choose what gets first and stick to working specifically on that sort
> of
> >> information until it was finished. And I would definitely say that
> >> non-canon
> >> stuff should go to the end of the queue.
> >
> > Agreed. If I might suggest the following order:
> >
> > 1) First priority- The Original Boxed Set.
> > 2) The Spacefarers Handbook
> > 3) Non adventure supplements (Lost Ships, etc)
> > 4)Adventure modules
> > 5) Greyspace, Krynnspace, Realmspace
> > 6) Other boxed sets
> > 7) Dragon / Dungeon articles
> > 8) Novels
> > 9) Comic Books
> > 10) Fan Generated
>
> I'd agree with you on the first two at least. I'm sure that if you asked
> 10
> different SJ fans, you would get 10 different answers. Sadly I didn't read
> Dragon or Dungeon at the time that the SJ articles appeared in it, so I
> couldn't help out with that unless I went hunting for back issues or that
> compilation CD that people have mentioned. I also don't have the comic
> books - I never knew they had been published until fairly recently.
>
> There will be lots of people who don't have all of the SJ products and it
> might be worth having several to-do lists that, so that people can work on
> a
> part of the SJ canon that interest them (i.e. if someone wants to write an
> article about the Star Knights, from Krynnspace, before we have finished
> with The Spacefarer's Handbook, then we let them do it). Any to-do list
> should just be a guide for people who want to help out.
>
> Fan generated material is something that needs to be isolated from the
> canon
> material somehow. You could have a second wiki or tag articles somehow
> (maybe by adding " (fan material)" to anything that isn't canon, but it
> would take so long to get to that point that I don't think it is even
> worth
> talking about until we get past item 6. I would prefer not to add things
> that fail to come up to Beyond the Moons standard as this will encourage
> people to get fan material up to scratch rather than submit unfinished
> "shovelware" to the wiki.
>
> > (Could we slip some Hackjammer in there as well? Perhaps approach Kenzer
> > and
> > Co. with it as additional promotion?)
>
> Hmm. This might have some sort of legal implication as Hackjammer is a
> live
> product. Kenzer and Co can probably ignore fan websites that they don't
> know
> about, but if you go knocking at their door they will be forced to check
> with their lawyers and if their lawyers say no then they can't pretend to
> ignore us after that. Hackjammer does get a mention on Beyond the Moons,
> so
> it qualifies at least to the level of "fan fiction". It might even qualify
> as a full D&D product (although I'm not sure if that makes it any more
> likely to be SJ canon). I think the project would need to sort out "types"
> of canon and label them.
>
> > Sorting out
> >> Wikipedia itself (rather than creating a new wiki) would help us spread
> >> knowledge of SJ to a bigger audience. (Plus we could work out how to
> edit
> >> articles from looking at how things are done on Wikipedia.)
> >  100% agreement from me. One of the ideas here is to reach a broader
> > audience. A new wiki wont do that, but usisng the  the one everybody
> > searches might.
>
> I'll look around wikipedia and see if I can work out how best to identify
> the articles that need cleaning up.
>
> David "Big Mac" Shepheard
> Virtual Eclipse Role Playing Club
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