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From: David Shepheard <david_shepheard@???????.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 02:02:39 -0000 Subject: Re: Krynnspace loose ends
Sorry for the delay with working on this. I've been trying to convert some of the organisations of Krynn that could have a presence in Krynnspace. (I've just finished work on the Wizards of High Sorcery - please look for any logical errors that might have slipped through and let me know about them.) While working on this I've realised that their are some loose ends with Krynnspace and Dragonlance that need to be tied up. Some of these relate to the 5th Age DLCS, but some of them relate to the material in older products. I'll list some of them here so that other people can comment: 1) River of Time - Age of Starbirth This needs a bit of modification to reflect the Krynnspace point of view because to them the gods created *all* of Krynnspace - not just Krynn. "The High God Awakens" - When the High God writes the Tobril it should contain plans for the entire crystal sphere (not just Krynn). "Krynn Is Made" - And so are the other planets. "Dragons Are Made", "Good Dragons Are Made" and "All Dragon War" - these seem to relate just to Krynn, but we need to find a time to spread dragons to the rest of the crystal sphere. "Stars Claimed", "All Saints War", "The Balance Restored" and "Time of Birth" - this should apply to the entire crystal sphere - we should have races spring up on all of the worlds at this point. "Birth of the Greygem" - this also seems to be specific to Krynn. It would be nice for it to wander across all of Krynnspace, but I think we can achieve the same thing via migration. Note that because the graygem was put in Lunitari, it might have an effect on anyone living on the moon at that time. 2) River of Time - Age of Dreams onward The rest of the river of time, lets us know when specific races (on Krynn) come into power. I'm in favour of giving the most powerful races spelljamming technology at the height of their power. Not all of these races should still have a presence in wildspace, but it would be nice for evidence of them to be found by players. Less powerful races could also travel through Krynnspace especially any race that gets used as slaves. These could easily be sold to mind flayers, neogi or the chainmen at some time in Krynn's past. 3) Sirion - the planet This planet is mostly useless (suffering from the "lets make a world people can't live on" problem). As Paul recently said, Krynnspace has little DL feel to it and I find it hard to imagine doing much with it. However there are gnomes on Taladas that can sail on volcanic lava and it might be worth sticking some of them here to try to give the world something that would make spacefarers want to visit. The new (3e/Takhisispace) Sirion does not need to have any connection to the old (2e/Reorxspace) one, so we can do something totally different there. 4) Reorx - the planet This planet has potential, but is currently treated as if it has a single global culture. There could easily be different sub-races of dwarves on Reorx. In order for it to come to life we need to create events in its history that match those of the DL saga. The new (3e/Takhisispace) Reorx does not need to have any connection to the old (2e/Reorxspace) one, so we can do something totally different there. 5) Krynn - spelljamming ports The Port of Palanthas, as described in SJR7 Krynnspace, clashes with the books of the Cloakmaster Cycle, where Teldin Moore is unable to locate any information about spelljamming in Palanthas and is told to seek out the gnomes of Mount Nevermind. The existence of an open port also conflicts with the idea that groundlings on Krynn no nothing about wildspace. Trampas tried destroying the port (in the 5th Age) but I think it needs to be removed altogether. One solution would be to move the port from Palanthas to a secret location in the nearby mountains surrounding the bay leading up to Palanthas. The port could then be run in secret and visitors could land on a heading that stops locals from seeing their ships. Something similar should probably be done in Taladas, but I don't have thoughts on this at the moment. As a groundling world Krynn can pretty much be ignored as a destination for spelljamming ships. Sadly this means that Krynnspace only actually has *3* planets worth visiting at the moment! (In the 5th Age things get even worse as we don't even have a groundling world there.) BTW: Note the new spelling of "Palanthas" from the new DLCS. 6) Chislev - the planet This planet has potential, but again is treated as if it has a single global culture. There could easily be different sub-races of elves on Chislev. Chislev makes a perfect place for the Elven Imperial Navy to recruit local elves from. SJR7 Krynnspace doesn't document the EIN, but as this sphere is part of the Radiant Triangle they need to be fleshed out. The EIN suffered heavy losses in the First Unhuman War, so active SJ ports on Chislev could be destroyed at that time. Even still it doesn't make sense to have no connection between the elves of Chislev and the EIN. The new (3e/Takhisispace) Chislev does not need to have any connection to the old (2e/Reorxspace) one, so we can do something totally different there. 7) Zivilyn - the planet Apart from its moons, this planet is mostly useless (suffering from the "if you try to land you will crash" problem). This planet was destroyed at some time in the past. These events are as important to Krynnspace as the Cataclysm. In fact I'd suggest tying the two events together and have agents of the Kingpriest of Istar active on Zivilyn. The moons probably did not exist before the planet was destroyed. The new (3e/Takhisispace) Zivilyn does not need to have any connection to the old (2e/Reorxspace) one, so we can do something totally different there. 8) Nehzmyth - the planet/additional astronomical (2e/Reoxspace only) This planet is also mostly useless (suffering from the "all who land will die" problem). All of the planets in Krynnspace are named after a (neutral) god except this one (and Krynn itself). This planet breaks the pattern. There is no explanation for the name of this planet. It isn't the former name of the god now called Chaos, so what *is* it named after? We need to work out what is going on with this planet and try to make it into a place where people might want to visit. (Incidentally this planet is not mentioned in Krynn's second planetary system.) 9) The Stellar Islands - additional astronomical (2e/Reoxspace only) These *could* have been created during the destruction of Zivilyn (and therefore possibly didn't exist in Krynnspace's past). (They are not mentioned in Krynn's second planetary system - I'd say they don't exist there.) 10) Shinare - the planet (3e/Takhisispace only) Look guys a *new* planet! Under the 3e cosmology all the neutral gods get a planet named after them! The two exceptions are Lunitari (who still has a moon - the one moved from Reorxspace to Takhisispace) and Gilean who gets the only neutral constellation in the sky. Shinare didn't really get a proper representation in the old sphere, so I think this is a "continuity error" that I think the new DLCS has "fixed". (This planet seems to replace Nehzmyth.) 11) Takhisis Steals the World - 5th Age/3e/Dragonhelm's Guide After Takhisis steals the world (moves Krynn to the new crystal sphere) it is said to have a single moon in its sky. I find it unlikely that that moon was orbiting an empty point so I think it is more likely that Takhisis "*SWAPPED* the world". A swap would solve a lot of our problems as it would give us something to replace Krynn (as well as making it more likely that the gods wouldn't notice the new planet for long enough for Takhisis to get away with her theft). Takhisis is said to have been planning this theft since the dawn of time and I suspect that she had agents on the world that she swapped getting that planet ready for the swap. We could therefore introduce a replacement for Krynn that was *perhaps* populated with abyssal creatures or that featured things from the Temple of Istar. Of course this would be a departure from Dragonhelm's Guide where the both Krynn and its moons are not replaced. 12) Death of a Queen and Return of the Gods - 5th Age/3e/Dragonhelm's Guide We have already worked out that the gods of Krynn do not need to abandon their worshipers (in Reorxspace) in order to "go to Takhisispace". They can be present in both systems. This is somewhere where we would be disagreeing with Dragonhelm's Guide. 13) Return of the Moons of Magic - 5th Age/3e/Dragonhelm's Guide The loss of the moons of magic is something we have been struggling with, but there is something we haven't taken into account yet. Before these moons went to the new crystal sphere Krynn was orbited by that single moon. When they arrived that one moon had to go somewhere else. Why not send it back to Krynn's old crystal sphere. Of course we then face the problem that we have just one moon when we want three. Maybe the gods of magic could split that alien moon up into three chunks. This would give us a Reorxspace with an alien planet and a broken up moon replacing Krynn and its original moons. (Another alternative is to associate that single moon with all three gods and abandon the concept of Moon Magic making spellcasting levels change with the conjunctions of the moon.) Again we would be disagreeing with Dragonhelm's Guide here. 14) Spelljammer Organisations Last but not least Krynnspace is currently also missing some of the major SJ organisations. Adding these organisations will make it feel like part of the Radiant Triangle. We need to pick the organisations that fit in and find a home for them. The tinker gnomes need to have a bigger presence in Krynnspace as this is *supposed* to be their home sphere. The descriptions of Reorx and Chislev do not possibly represent an entire planet, so I think it would be easy to put isolated communities on both of these worlds. David "Big Mac" Shepheard Virtual Eclipse Role Playing Club http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/virtualeclipselrp/links/d20_system_001071937434/Spelljammer_001071430476 http://www32.brinkster.com/virtualeclipse/
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