Re: MotM: Nuitari Novius - Krynnspace Update

--- David Shepheard <david_shepheard@???????.com>
wrote:

> I was hoping you would do something like this at
> some point. I didn't think you would do it straight
> away. 

Hey, I'm not one to sit on my kester letting the fire
go cold ;)


> Don't forget that we might also need to do some
> updating to the pre-Krynn Krynnspace. If you do
> any material for planets that already exist (e.g.
> existing towns or cities on existing planets or
moons),
> you might want to plot things on the timeline so
that
> you can do less advanced version set in the present.
>
> I love the direction. Although I think that you need
> to double check certain facts (specifically the time
> this planet arrives).

Heh, will do.


> It was me. But unfortunately that isn't the full
> story. In the 3e DLCS, two of the Moons Solinari and
> Lunitari are *said* to be connected to the planes 
> (by inhabitants of Ansalon), but apparently there is
> no real connection with the moons or their gods.
> Nuitari is the only moon that actually connects to 
> a transitive planet in DLCS because Nuitari himself
> apparently maintains a second home there*. So this
> moon works, but you might not be able to repeat 
> this trick unless Trampas can maybe suggest a hook.

Oh I can pull it off again if need be ;)

> This implies Wizards of the Black Robes will be able
> to regain spells in all other crystal spheres! I
would,
> however suggest that they need to use Contact Home
> Power (normally a cleric spell) once per week
(unless
> they were in Reoxspace or Takhisispace). Wizards
> wishing to overcome this requirement could perhaps
> build temples dedicated to Nuitari on a moon in
> another crystal sphere.

<shrug> Guess so; its an area I don't want to go at
the moment, at least not yet :)


> If Nuitari has access to a transitive plane but
> Solinari doesn't actually have access to The Astral
> Plane and Lunitari doesn't actually have access to 
> The Ethereal Plane then this actually creates an
> imbalance in the 3e DLCS set up. It doesn't hurt
> Dragonlance, but it makes Nuitari have a big 
> advantage.

I figure the new moons should have access to those
planes; if Takhasispace has an imbalance, well that
isn't my problem.  ;)


> (EDIT: Oops sorry you already suggested they were
> connected. I'd suggest that you make them in-phase
> too. The phases of Krynn's moons could be well
> documented in local almanacs, and they could suggest
> that the moon moves in  the same way.)

Pretty much.


> This is a continuity problem, because according to
> Dragonhelm (and I believe cannon material), Krynn's
> moons did not get taken over to Takhisispace until 
> 39 (or 40?) years after Krynn went. If you make
> Nuitari Novius appear while the original Nuitari is
still
> there, then I don't see a logical reason for it to
be 
> given a similar name, because people would see it as
an
> additional moon rather than a replacement. You would
> also need to explain the period when the place where
> Krynn used to be had 6 moons orbiting it, instead of
3.

I'm aware of that the moons didn't move until 40 years
after Krynn did, but I wanted the moons put "out
there" to get colonization going as soon as possible
so they're more useful.  Not sure what the best way to
handle the placement issue yet.


> The 3e DLCS starts at the same time that Krynn's old
> moons are taken away.  So if you want to do this in
a
> way that clashes you have a problem. You 
> would need to create this moon and have an instant
> population and an instant gold rush.

And it does have an instant gold rush...:p


> I think it is a shame to remove the Dragonfleet, but
> I'd like to keep Dragonhelm's "defeat" and perhaps
> make them an organisation that went into hiding (for
a
> while). This would make Nuitari Novius
> a power grab for them.

That's what I'm going with.  Actually, here's where I
want to go with them:

1 - Prior to the Cataclysm, Takhasis steals one of the
large reminants of Zivilyn.  She puts it out in orbit
in the Black Clouds.
2 - Takhasis puts 5 dragons (one per color) on the
rock.  She subsequently forgets all about them.
3 - The dragons lay eggs, eggs hatch, new source of
dragons.
4 - Following Dragonfleet defeat, reminants discover
this moon & start rebuilding in a real way.  Maybe
draconians and all.

Anyways, pretty much the rest has to do with problems
with positioning & time.  I think I'll need to get a
timeline going.  

One thought this does raise is that, with some
settings, the 3e "reboot" is usually set some time in
the future, particularly Darksun & Dragonlance.  I
wonder if this is feasible for this or not.  Hmmm.

Adam

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