Re: Help! My reviews...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adam Miller" <night_druid3000@?????.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:09 PM

> --- Paul Westermeyer <westermeyer@????????.net> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I thought that as well...  but I'd swear I
>> wrote it, _and_ that I saw it on the net within the
>> last year.  It stuck out because when I wrote it, I
>> didn't have a copy of the 2nd SJ MC appendix and I
>> thought to myself, "should fix that, now that I have
>> that product."  I'll just have to redo the review,
>> dammit.
>
> I do recall you talking about that.  It does not
> appear you ever posted it, I do (vaguely) recall you
> talking about it.

According to the following post Paul saw his reviews around January or
February 2006:

http://sjml.spelljammer.org/archive/oracle/200602/25-212842.html

That helps a bit as it gives us a time frame to work with. This could have
been put somewhere that has changed since 2006.

Do you ever post in Wizard's Spelljammer Forums, Paul? If you do then it 
might have been in there.

I know that the Wizards COMmunity boards (the Spelljammer Forums) get 
cleared out every so often. Maybe they were posted there and have been 
pruned since. The Wizards COMmunituy boards *claim* to have an archive 
themself, but they prune their archive as well as the live forum. So their 
archive isn't really much use.

I tried using the Wayback Machines and got a total index of the Wizards 
COMmumity boards:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://boards1.wizards.com/

I've had a random surf around, although I'm suspecting that there is a
problem with the Internet Archive for the later dates. The outer pages seem
old, but the content in the Spelljammer forum looks like it is new stuff
rather than archived stuff.

I checked the HTML source code and some of the links in that are not going 
via the "web.archive.org" URL. However if you navigate to the Internet 
Archive version of the Wizard Forums (for a specific time period), scroll to 
the bottom and hit the archive link you seem to get old stuff that looks to 
be from that time period. You can navigate to Spelljammer threads that seem 
old (i.e. they are not on the live website any more) from there. (We could 
probably use the names of Adam's moons to confirm this as he churns them out 
on a pretty reliable schedule. ;-) )

To be honest I find the Wayback Machine to be a lot less useful at finding 
recent material. It now seems to be linked in with the Alexa (*cough* 
spyware *cough*) Toolbar and seems to ignore things that it used to cover.

I'll try to find *other* people talking about Paul's reviews. Given the 
amount of flame wars on the Internet, hopefully there was someone out there 
that was irate enough to call Paul a "heretic". If they did they could 
actually be doing him a favor as they will give us another point of 
reference. ;-)

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EDIT: I just hacked the URL of the archive and after a couple of attempts I 
got the Wayback Machine to give me a list that just contained "archived 
pages" from previous versions of the Wizards Forums. It has a lot less 
"versions" that the first Waback link I mentioned:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/boards1.wizards.com/archive/index.php/

Here is another snapshot that *should* just be the Spelljammer Forum (f-294) 
itself:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://boards1.wizards.com/archive/index.php/f-294.html

There are a lot less snapshots that have that specific forum name (and I'm 
adding it to my list of Spelljammer links). Paul, try using this last link 
and looking at some of the different copies of the Spelljammer forums. You 
might see something you recognise.

David "Big Mac" Shepheard
Virtual Eclipse Role Playing Club
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/virtualeclipselrp/links/d20_system_001071937434/Spelljammer_001071430476
http://www32.brinkster.com/virtualeclipse/