Re: WoW - I wonder....

I do not like steam-punk in my D&D games .. Eberron was interesting until I
read about all the 'steam-punkishness' in it.  It is just to 'tech-happy'
for my tastes.

""Death to Tinker-Gnomes!""


Spelljammer is as far as I will go in allowing guns and cannons, {{even
though I do not like them, I know they are a part of the game system, so I
usually end up down playing them, or just leave them out all together}} 

'Spellpunk' I like it !! ;-}~

the Mercane/Arcane don't make ships, all they make are helms, and trade/sell
everything and anything they can get their grubby six fingered hands on. ;-}~

that's my 2 cents worth,


Jeymian Winterwolf
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PS: WoW graphics suck!
PSS: I like the Utilergist!


I wonder why nobody has critiqued the updates for Selene or Iberia yet? ..
hmmm??


In <URL:news:local.spelljam> on Sat 26 Aug, Michael Shell wrote:
> It's steampunk with a lot of magic tech and no guns. In any case there are  
> two to three things ripe for appropriating from Eberron for SpellJammer.

Are you saying that Spelljammer is really steampunk, anyway?

I think it is more like Spellpunk! [grin]

The various -punk genres are sometimes considered to be something
to do with a certain William Gibson-type of attitude, the 'punk'
part, presumablably, of underculture and maybe film noir.

SJ can be a lot more positive than that, and can be postively
mainstream, within the wildspace culture - a sort of extension of
the frontier, maybe more Wild West, exploring, adventuring side
of things.  Don't forget the pirates! [grin]

As for guns, they are ranged combat for everyone, not just mages,
and archers - I don't think that adding them to a game is always
desirable.

I seen occasional speculation about what a generally available
means of defence, as opposed to offence, might do to a culture!

 
> Artificiers and Magewrights are a new PC and NPC class that would fit right
> in line with SpellJammer. Heck you might even look at Magewright as one of
> the reasons the Mercane make ships so well. Warforged, because who doesn't
> like having the option of PC robots?

How much do you think the latest version of Utilergy:

http://www.romsys.demon.co.uk/frpg/spelljam/majspace/utilergist.htm

fits in with what Artificiers and Magewrights can do?  (I've not
seen the Eberron rules, as yet.)

I _think_ I can see ways of spec-ing constructs, based on what is
in MM/SRD, and a re-write of some 2ndEd Construction Priest
rules, which would give you living and non-living constructs,
both self-intelligent and with transfered intelligences.

But, there's likely lots of other things of higher priority! [grin]


I didn't think the Arcane/Mercane were that good shipwrights?

I thought that their forte was the supply of Helms and related
magic for SJ?