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From:     "Rian A. McMurtry" <Whalejudge@???.com>
Date:     Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:33:45 EDT
Subject:  Re: Maj Space: Maj - North America - help please!
    I'd shrink Iberian territories in Vinland.  In RW history, they were slow 
about moving north--no rich native nations dripping in gold and silver and 
turquoise and jade to conquer, just miles and miles of desert and hostile 
natives.  In RW history, Spain conquered some of the Pueblo lands in the early 
1540's, abandoned them, and came back in 1598.  Spain didn't have much to do with 
Baja California until the late 17th century except missionaries.  It wasnt 
until 1769 that Spain sent an expedition to bring Alta California under control, 
establishing San Diego and Monterey; 1776 to establish Yerba Buena (San 
Francisco).  The Russians were still in the Aleutians!  Spain brought Texas in 
begining 1716, responding to French probings from the Mississippi.  
    Albion establishing itself in California?  *shrug*.  Especially if 
Iberia's got a major war going on in South America.  Maybe make a more determined 
move to control Baja or up the coast to the Colorado and the Gila, but not too 
much.  California, at the time, was a LOT different than today.  Most of the 
south--desert.  No Salton Sea to grow crops around.  The Central Valley turning 
into a giant marsh with the winter and spring rains; Lake Tulare still 
dominating the southern Valley (don't bother trying to find it on a map; it got 
drained and plowed quite a while back).  I'd say hand Albion coastal settlements 
from (RW) Vancouver to Monterey, with a large area between Southern California 
and the Rio Grande--perhaps claimed by both but under the control of neither.  

    In the RW, Russia came to N. America across Siberia.  Is that still their 
route?

    It sounds as if Quebec has been handed to the Norse.  That so, are the 
Franks concentrating on New Crescent?

    Nova Albion doesn't seem much involved on the Atlantic side; just in 
California.   What about Virginia, Carolina, Georgia, the Bahamas, Florida?  
Florida and the Florida Straits (between Florida and Cuba) could easily be a 
battleground between Iberia, Frankland, and Albion.  Native confederacies could be 
established between the Ohio and the Great Lakes (Shawnee, Delaware) and in the 
Southern interior (Cherokee, Creek, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Seminole), upstate 
New York (Iroquois), plains.

    New Crescent (should that be "New Croissant"?) could be the base for a 
number of Frankish settlements along the Mississippi.and coastline (St. Louis, 
Biloxi, Mobile) (New Orleans dates from 1718, incidentally!). 

Question:  What about the Caribbean?


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Maj Space: Maj - North America - help please!    Dreamer    02 Aug 2006 22:03:47
Re: Maj Space: Maj - North America - help please!    Rian A. McMurtry    02 Aug 2006 23:33:45
Re: Maj Space: Maj - North America - help please!    Loki    03 Aug 2006 00:17:55
Re: Maj Space: Maj - North America - help please!    Night_Druid    03 Aug 2006 00:44:29
Re: Maj Space: Maj - North America - help please!    Dreamer    03 Aug 2006 08:02:06

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