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From:     Dreamer <dreamer@??????.?????.??.uk>
Date:     Sat, 8 Jul 2006 21:12:45 +0100
Subject:  Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?
In <URL:news:local.spelljam> on Sat 08 Jul, Matt Hoffman wrote:
> Well, I would say they do breathe, because it's silly to assume they 
> don't based on a single passage in a single source that is written in 
> such a way that it appears to reference some justification of the 
> ability elsewhere, but really doesn't. What would the explanation for 
> it be? I mean, it's not like you're talking about a race that can 
> breathe both water and air. And other creatures that can survive in 
> Wildspace without air (Kindori, Krajen) are fairly alien -- even moreso 
> than the Neogi.

Balance of probabilities seems that active neogi need to breathe.

Or, at least some do, which means that 'not needing to breathe'
would be a trick only known to some neogi.

If it is a trick only known to some neogi, I think the idea of it
being something based on their poison is attractive.


> On Jul 8, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Joseph Elric Smith wrote:
> 
> > I would say they don't; need to breath, as the rules state it, then it 
> > is easy if the DM feel the need to for some reason to always make them 
> > air breathers.
> > I just don't understand why it is such a problem just because they 
> > don't; breath
> > ken
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Miller" 
> > <night_druid3000@?????.com>
> > To: <SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 7:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?
> >
> >> --- "Rian A. McMurtry" <Whalejudge@???.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> OK, it says that.  mea culpa.  Since it's not in the
> >>> monster description, though... should we rule it
> >>> "space myth"?  "not need to breathe", IMO, should be
> >>> reflected in an immunity or reduced vulnerability to
> >>> gas attacks; since that's never been done, I'm
> >>> inclined to think it was something that got left in
> >>> by one of the authors and not caught in editing.
> >>
> >> Space myth.  The only reference to that is in a single
> >> entry that has nothing to do with the monster itself,
> >> just a throw-away line.  If neogi didn't breathe, it'd
> >> be a significant advantage that would have been noted.
> >> Even the 3e material does not mention neogi not
> >> breathing.

-- 
Dreamer
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Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    07 Jul 2006 22:45:20
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Rian A. McMurtry    07 Jul 2006 23:51:06
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Adam Miller    08 Jul 2006 00:33:31
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 01:46:44
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 01:54:41
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 08:01:36
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 07:31:50
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Rian A. McMurtry    08 Jul 2006 08:19:35
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Jeymian Winterwolf    08 Jul 2006 10:01:11
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Adam Miller    08 Jul 2006 11:03:40
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Steven    08 Jul 2006 12:41:09
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Joseph Elric Smith    08 Jul 2006 17:03:44
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Adam Miller    08 Jul 2006 17:26:24
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 10:56:23
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 17:30:02
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Joseph Elric Smith    08 Jul 2006 17:32:48
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    08 Jul 2006 17:35:09
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Joseph Elric Smith    08 Jul 2006 17:36:17
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 17:45:29
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 18:04:20
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 18:06:12
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 18:09:56
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    08 Jul 2006 18:14:39
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Joseph Elric Smith    08 Jul 2006 18:14:58
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Olander    08 Jul 2006 18:16:30
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 18:28:48
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 18:37:04
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Mark Vorwerk    08 Jul 2006 18:42:59
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 17:40:29
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    08 Jul 2006 19:11:37
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 19:17:42
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    08 Jul 2006 19:19:04
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Peter Aronson    08 Jul 2006 19:18:58
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 19:22:19
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 19:41:44
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Adam Miller    08 Jul 2006 20:13:23
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 20:46:02
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 20:49:37
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Jeymian Winterwolf    08 Jul 2006 22:23:41
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 22:19:02
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Olander    08 Jul 2006 22:22:27
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Mark Vorwerk    08 Jul 2006 22:54:42
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 23:29:48
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 23:23:24
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    09 Jul 2006 00:06:49
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Rian A. McMurtry    09 Jul 2006 00:15:07
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    09 Jul 2006 07:44:47
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    09 Jul 2006 07:53:34
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    09 Jul 2006 08:46:33
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    09 Jul 2006 19:12:34
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    09 Jul 2006 09:50:10
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    09 Jul 2006 22:37:39
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 20:06:56
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 20:12:45
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Steven    10 Jul 2006 15:11:32
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    10 Jul 2006 17:04:07
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Steven    11 Jul 2006 02:11:15
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    11 Jul 2006 05:00:39
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Mark Vorwerk    14 Jul 2006 00:21:12
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    14 Jul 2006 10:33:02
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Steven    14 Jul 2006 13:44:54
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Loki    14 Jul 2006 14:49:51
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Mark Vorwerk    14 Jul 2006 22:57:41
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    15 Jul 2006 05:31:24
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Paul Westermeyer    15 Jul 2006 13:10:39

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