Re: Neogi as who's pawns? (lost e-mails)

While it is interesting... I dunno. IMHO, Drow are done and played to  
death. Am I the only one who's sick of everything somehow going back to  
the Elves?

For my part, I like the Neogi as they are: standing on their own, as  
one of the three big bads of the SJ universe. They really don't need a  
Drow tie-in, or a tie-in to anything else for that matter. In fact,  
making them Drow cronies/creations diminishes them somewhat. It strikes  
me as something akin to the hackneyed and cheesey racial origins  
ret-cons that Blizzard keeps bogging down the Warcraft universe with.


On Jul 9, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Michael Shell wrote:

> Well, given the neogi, it would make sense for some to turn on their  
> creators and masters at some point although there could still be a  
> trigger that only certain drow (those with special connections to the  
> priesthood like high level clerics and some powerful male drow  
> wizards) know about that will either force the compliance of a given  
> neogi or kill it instantly. They maybe psychopaths but the drow are no  
> fools.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven <steven.james.1@??????????.??.uk>
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> Subject: Re: Neogi as who's pawns? (lost e-mails)
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>
> From what I recall from SJ lore, drow hate neogi, seeing them as
> abominations of the arachnid holy form....
> Doesn't mean they AREN'T made by drow, merely drow hate 'em on sight,  
> which
> makes sense as drow hate other arachnids (cildabrin, iirc?) that aren't
> "lolth blessed"
> :)
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> Hmmm, Neogi as some sort of drow experiment...what an intriguing idea.  
> It
> would also be an interesting way to have the drow and the neogi  
> actually use
> the same ships. Another way of reconciling Spider Moon with mainstream
> SpellJammer. I think I actually like this idea. How much material  
> exists on
> what sort of religion, if any, that the neogi subscribe to? Even if  
> there
> were evidence to the contrary an individual DM might be tempted to  
> stretch
> the rules so to speak and change the neogi deity to Lloth. Quite the  
> notion
> to wrap your brain around...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Hoffman <manta928@?????.com>
> To: SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com
> Sent: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 01:31:14 -0700
> Subject: Re: Neogi as who's pawns? (lost e-mails)
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2006, at 1:15 AM, Dreamer wrote:
>
>> Drow.
>>
>> These don't seem to go spelljamming, but pawns like neogi, who
>> would automatically consider themselves to be drow property...
>>
>> Maybe even if they hadn't met any drow for generations...
>>
>> For real fun ensure the neogi can never remember who their real
>> masters are, just think they are doing things they were ordered
>> to by drow, because "it seemed a good idea".
>>
>> Arcane would quite happily sell Helms to the drow, which they
>> then provide to their pet neogi?
>>
>>
>> Just a thought... [grin]
>
> While this is an interesting theory...
> A) There are Spelljamming drow :) I forget, offhand, whether the major  
> Drow
> anchorage was in Realmspace or Greyspace, but the Drow do field a  
> modest
> number of ships in the void. Jade Spider Commandships and Monarch class
> Armadas mostly.
> B) The Neogi do not worship Lolth. If they had been a Drow creation,  
> then
> like everything else the Drow do, there would have been some reverence
> built-in to the race for the Spider Queen. In fact, the only published
> source that mentions Neogi priests or worship at all is in the  
> Astromundi
> cluster, where the Neogi worship the Astromundi incarnation of the  
> Egyptian
> god Set.
> Also: the Drow would *never* have let their creations range so far  
> beyond
> their control -- it's in the Drow nature to keep a close rein on  
> slaves and
> servitors.
>
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