Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?

The latest (and hence according to WotC's own statements about superceding
the most official) description is the 18 page chapter on Neogi in Lords of
Madness, which is 3.5e.  This includes a section on their anatomy which does
not, alas, address if and how they breath, but does describe them as
"warm-blooded creatures similar to mammals" -- apparently they only look
like spiders.  It also says their forelegs have claw-like vestigial thumbs,
so it looks like they do have something to gesture with.  They also now have
a supernatural ability to magically Enslave three times a day, which is like
a dominate monster spell.  I think this is simplistic reasoning of the line
"Well, they're slavers, so they must have a magical ability to enslave
creatures."  Pfui!

Peter
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From: "Dreamer" <dreamer@??????.?????.??.uk>
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Subject: Re: [SPELLJAMMER] Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?


> In <URL:news:local.spelljam> on Sat 08 Jul, Adam Miller wrote:
> > --- Joseph Elric Smith <kruch7@???.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I would say they don't; need to breath, as the rules
> > > state it, then it is easy if the DM feel the need to
> > for
> > > some reason to always make them air  breathers.
> > > I just don't understand why it is such a problem
> > > just because they don't; breath
> >
> > Because the rules don't support neogi being
> > non-breathers.  The only evidence of this is a single,
> > throw-away reference.  The neogi monster entry in no
> > less than 4 books make no mention of this; it would be
> > a significant ability (immune to all gas-attacks, for
> > one), so much so that it would be noted, especially in
> > 3e sources.  If a DM wants to make them not breathe,
> > he's more than welcomed to, but I see no evidence to
> > officially make that so.
>
> Could you please point me to some (official) 3rdEd Neogi specs?
>
> Thanks.
>
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