Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?

Wait we have flying ships in space with sails, we have giant hamsters, we 
have intelligent spiders, with giant beetles as slave, and we are going to 
use but it is silly?  The explanation can be just as easy as how one 
explains Dragons or crystal sphere etc. Giant intelligent slavers spider who 
don't; breath
ken

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Hoffman" <manta928@?????.com>
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Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?


> Well, I would say they do breathe, because it's silly to assume they don't 
> based on a single passage in a single source that is written in such a way 
> that it appears to reference some justification of the ability elsewhere, 
> but really doesn't. What would the explanation for it be? I mean, it's not 
> like you're talking about a race that can breathe both water and air. And 
> other creatures that can survive in Wildspace without air (Kindori, 
> Krajen) are fairly alien -- even moreso than the Neogi.
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Joseph Elric Smith wrote:
>
>> I would say they don't; need to breath, as the rules state it, then it is 
>> easy if the DM feel the need to for some reason to always make them air 
>> breathers.
>> I just don't understand why it is such a problem just because they don't; 
>> breath
>> ken
>>
>> Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics
>> Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you
>>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Miller" 
>> <night_druid3000@?????.com>
>> To: <SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 7:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?
>>
>>
>>> --- "Rian A. McMurtry" <Whalejudge@???.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, it says that.  mea culpa.  Since it's not in the
>>>> monster description, though... should we rule it
>>> "space
>>>> myth"?  "not need to breathe", IMO, should be
>>>> reflected in an immunity or reduced vulnerability to
>>>> gas attacks; since that's never been done, I'm
>>>> inclined to think it was something that got left in
>>> by
>>>> one of the authors and not caught in editing.
>>>
>>> Space myth.  The only reference to that is in a single
>>> entry that has nothing to do with the monster itself,
>>> just a throw-away line.  If neogi didn't breathe, it'd
>>> be a significant advantage that would have been noted.
>>> Even the 3e material does not mention neogi not
>>> breathing.
>>>
>>> Adam
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