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From:     Matt Hoffman <manta928@?????.com>
Date:     Fri, 7 Jul 2006 18:54:41 -0700
Subject:  Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?
On Jul 7, 2006, at 5:33 PM, Adam Miller wrote:

> The closest thing to this would be a misinterpretation
> of the (badly) worded deathspider entry (p 42, 2nd
> column, paragraphs 2&3).  Boiled down, it says that a
> crew of 30 slaves, 8 neogi, & 8 umber hulks use as
> much air as a 34-man crew.  What it REALLY was trying
> to say is that neogi breath less air, and umber hulks
> breathe more, but combined, its a wash.  So thus, it
> really should have read that they use as much air as a
> 46-man crew, not a 34-man crew.

Now, I'm not the math-iest of people here... but the way I understand 
arcane space physics, the air usage guidelines don't actually state 
that size S creatures *breathe* less air, rather that they just 
displace less air from the atmospheric envelope, and similarly size L 
creatures displace more air, thus monkeying with the air usage formulae 
as they're laid down for nice and normal size M creatures.

But I could be wrong, and it's all semantics really, because no matter 
how you describe it the practical interpretation is "bigger creatures 
means less air for a given jaunt aboard a spelljammer."

That's one thing to bear in mind about this discussion though... maybe 
Dreamer was referring to something along those lines: a reference to 
Neogi using less air (due to their being size S) being mistakenly 
interpreted for being a Neogi racial ability.

Another thing one might consider, in the 34/46-man crew air usage 
contrivance above: do we know that all 30 slaves are size M? One can 
safely assume that the author intended for that, since size M is the 
norm, but with the large populations of goblinoids in wildspace it 
would be just as easy to assume that the formula is complicated by an 
integration of size M humanoids with some possibly size S goblinoids 
(goblins and kobolds). Again, I'm retarded in math, so I couldn't work 
out a formula that nets you a 34-man air usage result. And now that I 
think about it it really would be a waste of time and is neither here 
nor there anyway.

... Gosh I've a headache now.


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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    07 Jul 2006 22:45:20
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Rian A. McMurtry    07 Jul 2006 23:51:06
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Adam Miller    08 Jul 2006 00:33:31
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 01:46:44
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 01:54:41
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 08:01:36
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 07:31:50
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Rian A. McMurtry    08 Jul 2006 08:19:35
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Jeymian Winterwolf    08 Jul 2006 10:01:11
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Adam Miller    08 Jul 2006 11:03:40
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Steven    08 Jul 2006 12:41:09
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Joseph Elric Smith    08 Jul 2006 17:03:44
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Adam Miller    08 Jul 2006 17:26:24
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 10:56:23
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 17:30:02
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Joseph Elric Smith    08 Jul 2006 17:32:48
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    08 Jul 2006 17:35:09
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Joseph Elric Smith    08 Jul 2006 17:36:17
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 17:45:29
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 18:04:20
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 18:06:12
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 18:09:56
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    08 Jul 2006 18:14:39
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Joseph Elric Smith    08 Jul 2006 18:14:58
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Olander    08 Jul 2006 18:16:30
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 18:28:48
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 18:37:04
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Mark Vorwerk    08 Jul 2006 18:42:59
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 17:40:29
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    08 Jul 2006 19:11:37
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 19:17:42
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    08 Jul 2006 19:19:04
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Peter Aronson    08 Jul 2006 19:18:58
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 19:22:19
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 19:41:44
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Adam Miller    08 Jul 2006 20:13:23
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 20:46:02
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 20:49:37
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Jeymian Winterwolf    08 Jul 2006 22:23:41
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    08 Jul 2006 22:19:02
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Olander    08 Jul 2006 22:22:27
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Mark Vorwerk    08 Jul 2006 22:54:42
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 23:29:48
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 23:23:24
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    09 Jul 2006 00:06:49
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Rian A. McMurtry    09 Jul 2006 00:15:07
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    09 Jul 2006 07:44:47
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    09 Jul 2006 07:53:34
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Matt Hoffman    09 Jul 2006 08:46:33
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    09 Jul 2006 19:12:34
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    09 Jul 2006 09:50:10
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    09 Jul 2006 22:37:39
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 20:06:56
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    08 Jul 2006 20:12:45
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Steven    10 Jul 2006 15:11:32
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    10 Jul 2006 17:04:07
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Steven    11 Jul 2006 02:11:15
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    11 Jul 2006 05:00:39
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Mark Vorwerk    14 Jul 2006 00:21:12
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Dreamer    14 Jul 2006 10:33:02
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Steven    14 Jul 2006 13:44:54
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Loki    14 Jul 2006 14:49:51
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Mark Vorwerk    14 Jul 2006 22:57:41
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Michael Shell    15 Jul 2006 05:31:24
Re: Neogi and Umber Hulks - air breathing?    Paul Westermeyer    15 Jul 2006 13:10:39

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