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From:     Adam Miller <night_druid3000@?????.com>
Date:     Sun, 4 Jun 2006 10:50:58 -0700
Subject:  Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space
Lol, I did run some numbers myself.  Using the old 2e
PHB for the size & capacity of real-world ships, I
made a chart of real-world vs. SJ ships so we can get
some real perspectives of how SJ ships stack up to
real world ships.    Looking at this, I was kinda
surprised; without its steerage deck counted in, the
tradesman ranks up there with coaster/cogs, but if
that steerage deck comes into play, it's just shy of
galleon.  Squid & Hammer rate slightly higher than
caravel/cogs, although their cargo holds are not very
big.  Whales are monsters; their cargo hold alone is
800+ tons, possibly 1000 tons if you count the
"mouth".  Amazingly, dragonfly rates up there almost
with tradesmen, while unsurpisingly, wasp would be
hard pressed to move a sofa  :p

Ship	Size	Cargo	Cargo Hold	Crew
Coaster	60’-70’ x 20’	100	?	20-30
Caravel	70’ x 20’	150-200	?	30-40
Cog	75’-90’ x 20’	100-200	?	20
Galleon	130’ x 30’	500	19,200’ cu	130+
				
Tradesman*	120’ x 30’	100 (150?)	4000’ cu	10-25
Squidship	200’ x 25’	150 (225?)	6000’ cu	12-45
Hammership	200’ x 25’	240 (360?)	9600’ cu	24-60
Dragonfly*	95’ x 25’	100 (150?)	4050’ cu	3-10
Wasp*	150’ x 20’	25 (38?)	1050’ cu	8-18
Whaleship	250’ x 40’	820	32,800’ cu	20-90

•	Tradesman does not count “steerage deck”; that
appears to be about 80’ x 20’ x 8’.  Added in,
Tradesman has 16,000 cubic feet cargo space, or 420
tons.
•	Dragonfly’s cargo deck appears shorter than normal,
so assuming 6’ high ceiling.
•	Wasp’s cargo hold is in the tail, and appears to be
about 35’ x 5’ x 6’.
•	Cargo – first number is the actual cargo size;
second number is a guess as to total weight, including
cargo, weapons, people, personal belongings, etc, the
ship can handle.

Assumption: 
•	1 ton cargo = 40 cubic feet
•	8’ high cargo hold
•	Cargo stored on decks, pantry, lockers, sailor
goods, furniture, etc ~= 50% of cargo hold.  Used to
guess the second number under “Cargo”.


Now, that said, your pictures look great.  The
tradesman looks really reasonable to me.  The
squidship is not quite as aestically pleasing, though
I can see why you designed it the way you did.  It
might be helpful, although it might be difficult, to
add in a galleon & caravel to the lineup so you can
see how they match up :)

Another thing to muddle is that ships are not designed
to factory specs...two galleons might vary in lenght
by 20' or more.  So a tradesman might range from from
110' to 150'.  :)

Anyways, enough from me :p

Adam


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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
Why Tradesman need large cargo space    Steven    04 Jun 2006 12:52:07
Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space    Rian A. McMurtry    04 Jun 2006 15:15:11
Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space    Steven    04 Jun 2006 16:27:56
Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space    Adam Miller    04 Jun 2006 17:50:58
Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space    Jeff Stembel    04 Jun 2006 17:55:18
Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space    Dreamer    04 Jun 2006 19:09:10
Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space    DIABLO AMANOS    04 Jun 2006 19:42:19
Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space    Peter Aronson    04 Jun 2006 19:59:49
Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space    Loki    04 Jun 2006 20:04:43
Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space    Peter Aronson    04 Jun 2006 22:04:13
Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space    Dreamer    04 Jun 2006 21:01:44
Re: Why Tradesman need large cargo space    Ariel Sibal    05 Jun 2006 08:58:34

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