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From:     Nils Jeppe <nils@???????????.de>
Date:     Sat, 3 Jun 2006 22:02:47 +0200
Subject:  Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006, Olander wrote:

> I like sizes cause they look good on a standardized sheet. It gives you a
> sense of range.
>
> I mean yes, its easy to describe a color as reflecting at 663 THz but no one
> knows what that means. You could also say that a color is about the same
> color as the sky on a clear day. Its much simpler to just say Color: Blue.
> Sure its inexact and covers a range.. but it works
>
> Similarly you could say that earth is 12,745 (approx) km in diameter.. but
> if you say that Medium sized planets are 11,000 - 13,000 (as an example
> range) are medium sized planets it makes for better comparison on a quick
> reference. You don't have to call it 'About the same size as earth'.. its
> just Size: Medium
>
> And yeah, I like the Fine -> Medium -> Colossal range because they're known
> quantities in 3e. They don't mean the same thing when compared to creatures
> or weapons.. but players at least understand the range and how they interact
> relatively.

With colors, fine variations aren't really noticed. You're comparing 
apples and oranges. And I think I didn't get across what I meant. I didn't 
mean you shouldn't use "descriptive statements" to descibe planets. I'm 
saying that to define these in a formal system is silly.

Let me try again.

Take an asteroid, a sun, a rocky planet (Earth) and a gas giant (Jupiter).

Which of these is small? Which one is big? It's one huge mess of relative 
statements. And if you classify Earth as a "medium" planetary body, then 
what's a comet? And an asteroid? Say that tiny chunk 5m across that just 
ripped apart your ship? "Microscopic"?

You'd need to differentiate between all of them. Which is easy enough to 
do. "Small asteroid" is smaller than a "Small sun". But then you'd need 
to define size ranges for all possible types of items that your players 
could run across.

Or just skip the formal system and keep going, because it just isn't worth 
the hassle.

That's why (imo) the original spelljammer used the lettered scale. And the 
lettered scale is just superfluous - Instead of saying "it's a size A 
asteroid", and having to remember that size A is, what, 1-10 km in 
diameter, you might as well just say "it's a 5 km asteroid". Plus, 
depending on what you're going to do, there's a huge difference between 
1km and 10k or between 10000 and 19999km. You'll need the numbers anyway.

And of course the characters should never get exact measurements unless 
they take the time to obtain them. That goes without saying. But for a 
stats sheet, an actual numeric value serves just fine IMO. You just don't 
gain anything from a formal system of size categories. The universe just 
has too much different stuff in it.


- Nils


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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Dreamer    03 Jun 2006 11:18:34
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Adam Miller    03 Jun 2006 12:25:18
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Olander    03 Jun 2006 16:18:57
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Night_Druid    03 Jun 2006 17:40:15
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Nils Jeppe    03 Jun 2006 18:26:09
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Olander    03 Jun 2006 19:09:48
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Nils Jeppe    03 Jun 2006 20:02:47
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Olander    04 Jun 2006 01:48:34
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Jeff Stembel    04 Jun 2006 05:17:29
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Nils Jeppe    04 Jun 2006 18:18:21
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Loki    04 Jun 2006 19:42:55
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Olander    04 Jun 2006 20:43:43
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Jeff Stembel    04 Jun 2006 20:52:23
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Olander    04 Jun 2006 20:54:50
Re: Planetary Size under 3rdEd?    Jeff Stembel    04 Jun 2006 21:02:56

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