Re: 3rdEd Minor & Major Helm

On May 4, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Dreamer wrote:

> This is the latest version of the 3rdEd Minor and Major Helm,
> with the 2ndEd text for comparison.  The main change is that
> there is a spec for both helms as magic items.  Minimal changes
> have been made to the text, mainly 'spellcaster' has been
> substituted for 'cleric', 'priest', 'mage' and 'wizard'.

I am confused on the cost of helms in your conversion. Are they  
200,000g/500,000g or are they halve that? You list prices in two  
places (unless you mean the difference between buying them and making  
them, but that does not seem the case).

Either way, the value seems much too high.

At what level would you imagine a party of characters getting their  
hands on a helm? A second helm? If a minor helm sells for 50,000g,  
that's 12,500g when split 4 ways, which is the reward for a party of  
13th level characters. Even if you divvy out some to the crew and pay  
for repairs it is likely to equal the treasure reward for 12th level  
characters.

I haven't been following the 3e conversion threads all that close, so  
maybe I am not seeing the big picture, but that seems like too much  
gold to me. It would make it so GMs have to be very careful with ship  
combat and letting the PCs defeat enemies and gain their helms and  
ships. This was true in 2e to some extent, but much more so in 3e  
where characters actually have something to do with all that gold.


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