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From: Dreamer <dreamer@??????.?????.??.uk> Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 16:22:49 +0100 Subject: Re: 3rdEd SJ Ship Hulls - 1st draft
This is the first draft of my attempt to convert SJ ship hulls to 3rdEd. I have calculated a Size stat for all the ships, and constructed a conversion scheme using this, both for ships with a 2ndEd spec, and those with just dimensions of keel and beam. Thorough checks show that a simple formula of AC = 15 - AR gives reasonable looking results. Hardness for the materials that ship's hulls are made of gives reduced damage on attacks for some hull materials. 3rdEd object saving throws work differently, and they look as though they are reasonable for ship's hulls - if a ship with an active helm counts as attended. Sensibly this means either the helmsman makes the save, or the save is based on the caster level of the helm (14th-19th, i.e. a bonus of between 2+7 and 2+10), taking whichever is better. Incidentally, the numbers for the Mindspider look wrong, with only a keel length of 40 feet; is there a typo and it should be 140 feet or something? This looks like about the minimum set of changes feasible. Comments? 2ndEd Spelljamming Ship Hulls - 07/May/06 These are all the ships from CoAS, with details for Mindspider and Armada added from LotV. Name KL BL T/HP Crew MC AR Land ST Cost Flitter 20 5 1 1 B 8 L+W Ceramic 10 Longship 75 15 4 4/ 4 E 8 W -Wood 10 Mosquito 100 15 6 1/ 6 C 5 L+W -Wood 15 Caravel 70 20 10 8/10 F 9 W +Wood 10 Coaster 60 20 10 8/10 F 9 W +Wood 5 Drakkar 100 20 10 20/10 F 7 W +Wood 25 Dragonfly 100 20 10 3/10 C 8 L -Wood 40 Damselfly 100 20 10 2/10 D 4 L Metal 50 Dromond 175 15 16 10/16 E 9 W -Wood 15 Wasp 80 20 18 8/18 D 6 L +Wood 20 Cog 90 20 20 10/20 F 9 W +Wood 10 Great Galley 130 20 20 15/20 F 7 W +Wood 30 Tyrantship 100 100 23 15/23 C 0 - Stone 100 Tradesman 120 30 25 10/25 D 5 - +Wood 15 Sidewheeler 120 25 30 20/30 E 7 L?W? Metal 40 Nautiloid 180* 30 35 10/35 D 4 W +Wood 40 Mindspider 40 15 40 3/40 C 4 - Metal 120 Galleon 130 30 40 20/40 E 7 W +Wood 50 Squidship 250* 25 45 12/45 D 5 W +Wood 45 Dragonship 150 20 45 20/45 D 5 W +Wood 60 Hammership 250 25 60 24/60 D 6 W +Wood 50 Man-o-War 200 20 60 10/60 C 7 - Ceramic 100 Deathspider 175- 50 100 30/100 E 5 - Crystal 75 Armada 300 30 100 40/100 D 5 - Ceramic - Citadel 250 250 300 100/300 E 0 L Stone 100 KL: Keel Length in feet, *= including ram, -= excluding arms BL: Beam Length in feet T/HP: Tonnage/Hull Points Crew: minimum/safe in human-equivalents MC: Maneuverability Class AR: Armour Rating; similar to AC Land: L= Land, W= Water, L+W= Land&Water, L?W?= Land 50%/Water 50%, -= Can't ST: Saving Throw as, -Wood= Thin Wood, +Wood= Thick Wood Cost: is in tens of thousands of gold pieces Name T/HP MC AR ST Ram SA Flitter 1 B 8 Ceramic - - Longship 4 E 8 -Wood opt 1xL Mosquito 6 C 5 -Wood - - Caravel 10 F 9 +Wood - 1xL Coaster 10 F 9 +Wood - 1xL Drakkar 10 F 7 +Wood - 1xL Dragonfly 10 C 8 -Wood - 1xL Damselfly 10 D 4 Metal - 1xL Dromond 16 E 9 -Wood P 3xL Wasp 18 D 6 +Wood - 1xL Cog 20 F 9 +Wood - - Great Galley 20 F 7 +Wood P 3xL Tyrantship 23 C 0 Stone - - Tradesman 25 D 5 +Wood - 2xL Sidewheeler 30 E 7 Metal - - Nautiloid 35 D 4 +Wood P 5xL Mindspider 40 C 4 Metal G+P 3xM Galleon 40 E 7 +Wood opt 3xL Squidship 45 D 5 +Wood G/P 3xL Dragonship 45 D 5 +Wood opt 3xL Hammership 60 D 6 +Wood B 3xL Man-o-War 60 C 7 Ceramic - 4xL Deathspider 100 E 5 Crystal G 6xL Armada 100 D 5 Ceramic - 14xL Citadel 300 E 0 Stone B 10xL Ram: opt= Optional, P= Piercing, B= Blunt, G= Grappling, -= None SA: Standard Armament, L= Large, M= Medium, -= None 3rdEd AC = 15 - 2ndEd AR 3rdEd Spelljamming Ship Hulls - 09/May/06 These are all the ships from CoAS, with details for Mindspider and Armada added from LotV. Name KL BL Size T/HP Crew MC AC Hard Ram SA Land Cost Flitter 20 5 1 1 1 B 7 1 - - L+W 10 Longship 75 15 3 4 4/ 4 E 7 - opt 1 W 10 Mosquito 100 15 3 6 1/ 6 C 10 - - - L+W 15 Caravel 70 20 3 10 8/10 F 6 - - 1 W 10 Coaster 60 20 3 10 8/10 F 6 - - 1 W 5 Drakkar 100 20 4 10 20/10 F 8 - - 1 W 25 Dragonfly 100 20 4 10 3/10 C 7 - - 1 L 40 Damselfly 100 20 4 10 2/10 D 11 1 - 1 L 50 Dromond 175 15 4 16 10/16 E 6 - P 3 W 15 Wasp 80 20 4 18 8/18 D 9 - - 1 L 20 Cog 90 20 4 20 10/20 F 6 - - - W 10 Great Galley 130 20 5 20 15/20 F 8 - P 3 W 30 Tyrantship 100 100 8 23 15/23 C 15 1 - - - 100 Tradesman 120 30 5 25 10/25 D 10 - - 2 - 15 Sidewheeler 120 25 4 30 20/30 E 8 1 - - L?W? 40 Nautiloid 180* 30 5 35 10/35 D 11 - P 5 W 40 Mindspider 40 15 2? 40 3/40 C 11 1 G+P 3 - 120 Galleon 130 30 5 40 20/40 E 8 - opt 3 W 50 Squidship 250* 25 5 45 12/45 D 10 - G/P 3 W 45 Dragonship 150 20 4 45 20/45 D 10 - opt 3 W 60 Hammership 250 25 6 60 24/60 D 9 - B 3 W 50 Man-o-War 200 20 5 60 10/60 C 8 1 - 4 - 100 Deathspider 175- 50 7 100 30/100 E 10 1 G 6 - 75 Armada 300 30 7 100 40/100 D 10 1 - 14 - - Citadel 250 250 24 300 100/300 E 15 1 B 10 L 100 KL: Keel Length in feet, *= including ram, -= excluding arms BL: Beam Length in feet Size: see Size table; if KL includes ram, assume it is a third of the length T/HP: Tonnage/Hull Points Crew: minimum/safe in human-equivalents MC: Maneuverability Class AC: Armour Class; includes Size modifier Hard: Hardness of hull material; reduction in hull points damage; -= zero Ram: opt= Optional, P= Piercing, B= Blunt, G= Grappling, -= None SA: Standard Armament in large weapons; -= None Land: L= Land, W= Water, L+W= Land&Water, L?W?= Land 50%/Water 50%, -= Can't Cost: is in tens of thousands of gold pieces; -= not for sale Substance Hardness Thin Wood 0 Thick Wood 0 Leather 0 Bone 0 Stone 1 Crystal 1 Ceramic 1 Metal* 1 Mithral 1 Adamantite 2 Substance: *= includes Glassteel Hardness: measured in hull points -- Dreamer dreamer@??????.?????.??.uk http://www.romsys.demon.co.uk/
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