Re: Enhance Manueverablility 3e conversion

>From: Dreamer <dreamer@??????.?????.??.uk>
>
>In <URL:news:local.spelljam> on Thu 06 Apr, Alexander James wrote:
> > From: "Dreamer" <dreamer@??????.?????.??.uk>
> >
> > > In <URL:news:local.spelljam> on Wed 05 Apr, Alexander James wrote:
> > >> Enhance Manueverablity:
> > > OK, I've re-red the spec of the 2ndEd spell carefully, and I
> > > think that it says that the MC cannot be either increased or
> > > decreased by more than one class, using this pair of spells.
> > >
> > > The only reason to stack multiple spells on a ship, of either
> > > type, might mean that you then need more of the reverse of the
> > > spell to counter it, but this is not a detail that I'd normally
> > > expect to see in the spell spec.
> >
> > An Idea:  Make the bonus/ penalty from Enhance Manueverability, Reduce
> > Manueverability, Increase Rating, and Decrease Rating a named bonus
> > (probably enhancement), so that all the text on stacking the effect is
> > implied.  [only the largest effect of each name applies at any one time, 
>and
> > the multiple similar effects rule states that the additional, lower 
>power,
> > effects remain as backups incase the best effect ends]
>
>That sounds like a good idea. I'll have to read-up on named bonuses.
>
>--
>Dreamer

Surf over to the Hypertext 20 spell list to look at how the SRD does spell 
chains (spells that do the same thing at a higher level - for anyone who 
doesn't know):
http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/spells.htm

If you compare spells like "Invisibility", "Invisibility, Greater" and 
"Invisibility, Mass" you can see how they only mention the changes to the 
root spell. That could help when writing 3e conversions of Create Minor Helm 
and Create Major Helm.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/invisibility.htm
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/invisibilityGreater.htm
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/invisibilityMass.htm

I'm not so sure if spell chains would help for the conversions of Enhance 
Manueverability, Decrease Manueverability, Enhance Raiting and Decrease 
Raiting because they are all doing slightly different things. Have a look at 
Slow and Haste (which would probably have been one reversable spell under 
2e):
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/slow.htm
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/haste.htm

I suppose that you could use the text of haste as a template and then 
"spelljammerfy" it into the Enhance Raiting and Enhance Manueverability 
spells. Then take the text of slow and do the same for Decrease Raiting and 
Decrease Manueverability spells.

For example the sentence just before the Material Componant section says:

"Multiple haste effects don’t stack. Haste dispels and counters slow."

That can turn into:

"Multiple raiting enhancing effects don't stack. Enhance raiting dispells 
and counters decrease raiting."

or

"Multiple manueverabilty enhancing effects don't stack. Enhance 
manueverabiity dispells and counters decrease manueverability."

I think it is always worth looking at the wording of the nearest SRD spells, 
to see how they have

* = I just made up "spelljammerfy" - it means replace the original crunchy 
bits with the nuts and bolts taken from the pre-conversion 2e SJ spells.