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From:     Loki <george.williams.iv@?????.com>
Date:     Sat, 1 Apr 2006 19:36:42 -0500
Subject:  Re: Helms
I think we should definetly stick with just a straight up conversion.
I would like to suggest, however, a sidebar for the helm section.  I
will have to go look them up, but there are a number of feats in
Complete Arcane and in Complete Divine that provide a very small
amount of native magical talent. Usually denoted by the daily ability
to cast 2 or 3 0-Level spells. In my game this is enough magical
ability to pilot a helm, although only at SR1. This sounds like it
would fill your games need for a low level helmsman who is not a
spellcasting class, but also allow us to keep the helm a straight
conversion.

Another nice thing about this approach is that the feat taken does
provide an advantage at times when there is no piloting needed.

-Loki, off to find the books with the feats referrenced as soon as he
is done with the dinner that just came off his stove....


On 4/1/06, Jeymian Winterwolf <wulffe_lord@???????.com> wrote:
> In <URL:news:local.spelljam> on Sat 01 Apr, Michael Shell wrote:
> > Part of me is leaning towards ditching helms altogether.
> [snip]
>
> I agree there are all sorts of interesting ideas for alternate
> Helms for 3rdEd, maybe including those that don't drain magic
> from the helmsman.
>
> But, I think we should just convert all the 2ndEd SJ stuff "as
> is", with minimum changes to fit in with 3rdEd, and maybe then
> list alternatives.
>
> No?
>
> DMs can then go their own way, changing what they like, but I
> think it advisable to have a straight conversion of the 2ndEd
> stuff as a common starting point.
>
> --
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> ok .. a straight conversion from 2ndEd to AD&D3E should be easy and the
> Arcane/Mercane can still make them as usually and have the monopoly on those
> helms that drain the magic of the user..
>
>
> of course there will always be alternatives like what I listed before on
> this thread.  great responses btw :-}
>
> the alternatives can be from non-arcane/mercane and could be "rare" to find
> .. who knows ..
>
>
> Jeymian Winterwolf
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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
Re: Helms    Ryltar Thamior    30 May 2005 09:24:13
Helms    Jeymian Winterwolf    01 Apr 2006 20:33:45
Re: Helms    Michael Shell    01 Apr 2006 21:03:23
Re: Helms    Michael Shell    01 Apr 2006 21:06:32
Re: Helms    Jeymian Winterwolf    01 Apr 2006 23:37:00
Re: Helms    Michael Shell    01 Apr 2006 21:51:47
Re: Helms    Jeymian Winterwolf    01 Apr 2006 23:53:29
Re: Helms    Dreamer    01 Apr 2006 22:40:58
Re: Helms    Jeymian Winterwolf    02 Apr 2006 01:09:28
Re: Helms    Loki    02 Apr 2006 00:36:42
Re: Helms    David Shepheard    03 Apr 2006 05:24:28
Re: Helms    David Shepheard    03 Apr 2006 05:45:54
Re: Helms    Adam Miller    03 Apr 2006 12:15:03
Re: Helms    Jeymian Winterwolf    03 Apr 2006 19:32:57
Re: Helms    Terry Bigrigg    13 Apr 2006 18:34:57
Re: Helms    Terry Masson    14 Apr 2006 01:26:23
Re: Helms    Terry Bigrigg    14 Apr 2006 02:55:23
Re: Helms    Terry Masson    14 Apr 2006 03:17:32
Re: Helms    Terry Bigrigg    14 Apr 2006 04:14:58
Re: Helms    Terry Masson    14 Apr 2006 04:41:23
Re: Helms    Dreamer    14 Apr 2006 07:02:52

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