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From:     Jeymian Winterwolf <wulffe_lord@???????.com>
Date:     Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:33:45 -0800
Subject:  Re: Helms
I've been going over alot of the SJ material for 3.5e on the internet and
found I like these versions of the SJHelms.. I got them from
http://www.shatteredfractine.com/ here and I personally think these helms
are better for SJ3

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 Spelljammer Helm, Major: This helm allows the individual seated upon it to
move large mass through space by means of channeling helm's the energies,
that enchants ship, directly into a motive force. This energy is somewhat
useful for maneuvering the ship up to 200 tonnage, but primarily it provides
the push that makes the ship move forward (or backward). Maneuvering comes
primarily from the ship’s sails and oars.
    The power of the force is known as the ship’s TS (tactical speed)
rating. Helms have TS rating of +1 to +10. Any ship taking sufficent damage
to cause the ship to break apart causes the helm to become inoperable till
such a time it is attuned to a new ship.
    Caster Level: 13th; Prerequisite: Craft Wonderous Item, create major
helm, creator's class level must be twice that of the bonus (TS) enchanted
into the helm; Market Price: 10,000 gp(+1), 40,000 gp(+2), 90,000 gp(+3),
160,000 gp(+4), 250,000 gp (+5), 360,000 gp(+6), 490,000 gp(+7), 640,000
gp(+8), 810,000 gp(+9), 1,000,000 gp(+10); Weight: 30 to 300 lbs. 

AND .. 

Spelljammer Helm, Minor: This helm functions much like the major helm but is
limited to maximum of 50 tonnage of ship that it can move. A minor helm is
also limited in it ability to accellerate and decelerate. Aside form these
limitation it functions much like the major spelljamming helms.
    Caster Level: 9th; Prerequisite: Craft Wonderous Item, create major
helm, creator's class level must be three times that of the bonus (TS)
enchanted into the helm; Market Price: 5,000 gp(+1), 20,000 gp(+2), 45,000
gp(+3), 80,000 gp(+4), 125,000 gp (+5), 180,000 gp(+6); Weight: 30 to 300 lbs. 

Notes on this Variant/Conversion: When making the conversion for
spelljamming helms for 3E, decided that siphoning spells away from
spellcasters weaken them so that they are not an effect member in any fight
on board the ship they pilots. By making the Tactical Speed base on Helm and
not level of spell caster allows for much cheaper helms, which in 3E is more
balancing.
    I am sure that this is but one of many conversions/varient that will
show up of the minor and the major helms.

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According to the Concordance of Arcane Space in the SJ box set a minor helm
is worth 100,000gp and a major is worth 250,000gp .. now by looking a the
price ranges of the above helms .. a minor helms TS speed is about +5 .. and
 the major helms are +5 as well.

Personally I like the idea of the TS being based on the Helm and not the
level of the spellcaster.  

So if you use the "Helmsman" prestige class that both Dreamer and Peter
wrote about, these versions of the helms work out much better for that
Prestige class.


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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
Re: Helms    Ryltar Thamior    30 May 2005 09:24:13
Helms    Jeymian Winterwolf    01 Apr 2006 20:33:45
Re: Helms    Michael Shell    01 Apr 2006 21:03:23
Re: Helms    Michael Shell    01 Apr 2006 21:06:32
Re: Helms    Jeymian Winterwolf    01 Apr 2006 23:37:00
Re: Helms    Michael Shell    01 Apr 2006 21:51:47
Re: Helms    Jeymian Winterwolf    01 Apr 2006 23:53:29
Re: Helms    Dreamer    01 Apr 2006 22:40:58
Re: Helms    Jeymian Winterwolf    02 Apr 2006 01:09:28
Re: Helms    Loki    02 Apr 2006 00:36:42
Re: Helms    David Shepheard    03 Apr 2006 05:24:28
Re: Helms    David Shepheard    03 Apr 2006 05:45:54
Re: Helms    Adam Miller    03 Apr 2006 12:15:03
Re: Helms    Jeymian Winterwolf    03 Apr 2006 19:32:57
Re: Helms    Terry Bigrigg    13 Apr 2006 18:34:57
Re: Helms    Terry Masson    14 Apr 2006 01:26:23
Re: Helms    Terry Bigrigg    14 Apr 2006 02:55:23
Re: Helms    Terry Masson    14 Apr 2006 03:17:32
Re: Helms    Terry Bigrigg    14 Apr 2006 04:14:58
Re: Helms    Terry Masson    14 Apr 2006 04:41:23
Re: Helms    Dreamer    14 Apr 2006 07:02:52

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