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From: Dreamer <dreamer@??????.?????.??.uk> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 14:37:43 +0100 Subject: Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class
I notice various people are talking about extended 3rdEd character classes that might have a SJ application. I was wondering how I might convert the 2ndEd 'Helmsman' class? 2ndEd version: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Helmsman - ROM, 18/Sep/00 Helmsman is a magic-user specialisation, intended just to be able to operate a Spell Jamming Helm. Though they are treated in all ways as a magic-user of their level for the purpose of operating a helm, and have the same character class requirements as a magic-user (and 6+ STR, 7+ DEX), the only thing that they can do with their magical powers is to operate a helm. In other words, they cannot cast spells, or enchant magical items. They can, however, use any magical item that can be used by a magic-user, including scrolls (they will need some means to Read Magic), and may be allowed to work on enchanting helms. DMs might allow them to learn and cast the various Helm spells at high level (and possibly Permanence, but only on Helms), but spell casting should make them incapable of operating a helm for a week after. A helmsman gains the equivalent non-weapon proficiencies (NWP) and saving throws as a magic-user, but has the weapon proficiencies, hit dice and combat skills of a thief, though armour is still restricted as a magic-user (however, only while operating a helm). They use the thief table for experience points required for levels, as they have such a specialised way of using their magic. Except for use as NPC hirelings, this class is probably most of use if the character is a split class, for example a Fighter/Helmsman, or a Thief/Helmsman, answering questions like: "How could he have stolen that Spell Jammer? He is a thief, not a magic-user!", or: "How does he spell jam without help from a spell caster?". ----------------------------------------------------------------- This 2ndEd class depends on the Thief experience table making them a far cheaper class than the obviously far more useful Wizards. It also relies on the character who becomes this class having 'magical talent', which the DnD system seems to consider is something every character has if their player wants it, even if not all members of the population do so. Does this class even make sense as an idea under 3rdEd, and if so how would people go about making it work? As I understand it a prestige class probably wouldn't be appropriate (it's not very prestigious! [grin] ). Maybe you'd turn it into a (non-wizard/sorcerer/priest) Feat? Apprentice Helmsman allows you to operate a Helm as an arcane spell caster of half your level (round down, minimum 1st; prerequisite INT 10), Journeyman Helmsman as one of two-thirds your level (round to nearest, prerequisite Apprentice Helmsman), and Master Helmsman as one of your level (prerequisite Journeyman Helmsman)? (If someone takes this Feat, and has either arcane or divine magic from some other source, such as high level Rangers, then the Helm drains this for the day as well.) It strikes me that it would be a very useful NPC class (or Feat, or whatever), in particular if there was something like a Guild of Helmsmen. -- Dreamer dreamer@??????.?????.??.uk http://www.romsys.demon.co.uk/
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| Subject | From | Date (UTC) | ||
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| 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Dreamer | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Peter Aronson | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Jeymian Winterwolf | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Dreamer | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Dreamer | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Loki | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Peter Aronson | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Peter Aronson | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Jeymian Winterwolf | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Jeymian Winterwolf | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Dreamer | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | David Shepheard | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | David Shepheard | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Peter Aronson | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Dreamer | |||
| Re: 3rdEd 'Helmsman' character class | Loki |