Re: Whatever happened to the 3.5e conversions to the Spelljammer Spells?

> Dreamer wrote:
> Am I by being too optimistic by suggesting that attempts be made
> to agree on a minimum core set of spells?
>
> I'm guessing that the spells that make (temporary) helms,
> replenish air (on a smallish scale), and deal with being in a
> crystal sphere foreign to your god/divine focus are the minimum.

I'd also include the portal spells here: Locate Portal and Create Portal.

> Loki wrote:
> My suggestion is this: that we break them up according to
> waht product they originally apppeared in (with another
> category for new ones). It would mae for a more logical
> division. Personally I would classify the ones from CoAS
> as the "core," spells so useful and common that parrallel
> lines of arcane research have developed them in most SJ
> capable/based societies. Much like cure lt. wounds and
> magic missile are to groundlings.

This seems like a sensible proposal.  So there would be the following
sections of spells:

(1) Spells from Concordance of Arcane Space
(2) Spells from Lost Ships
(3) Spells from Astromundi Cluster
(4) Spells from Adventure Modules
(5) Contributed Spells

We would have to choose among the various conversions: Richard Gant's, the
ones on the Shattered Fractine, Alexander James' -- they're all a bit
different.  Also, no one has yet posted a detailed conversion of Detect
Powers, but then, the original in CoAS is a horrible mix of player and GM
information that really should have been two separate sections.

On the other hand, I really like Mark Doolan's Stellar and Wildspace Domains
in the Shattered Fractine version.  However, they both rely on spells not
from the Spelljammer books.  But they seem much more in the spirit of 3.5e.
I suppose the combination could be worked out, but it'd make the rules
messier.  (David Shepheard has also proposed some Clerical Domains -- 
Spelljamming, Sphere, Wildspace and Vacuum -- but they don't appear to be as
completely worked out.)

We would also need to come to some sort of agreement on which Spelljamming
spells are available for:

Bards
Druids
Paladins
Rangers
Warmages

(OK, Warmages are probably not strictly necessary, but they're easy.  Wu Jen
would be a bit more work.)  Also, would Adepts get any Spelljamming spells?

Someone suggested we go through the spells one at a time and discuss them.
Let's start with the first spell in CoAS: Locate Portal.  I'll assume that
at least for the spells in CoAS that people have access to the originals,
and just post existing conversions.

Richard Gant:

Locate Portal
Divination
Level: Sor/Wiz 2
Components:  V, S, M
Casting Time:  1 round
Range:  Personal
Duration:  Instantaneous
Saving Throw:  None
Spell Resistance:  No
     This spell, which may only be cast at medium range (100 ft. + 10
ft./level) to a crystal shell, informs the caster of the distance in miles
and the direction to the nearest natural portal through that crystal shell.
In general, from any point on a crystal shell, the portals for a
normal-sized ship are 2d10 days away from a ship's current location.

     Material Component:  A conch shell.

Mark Doolan:

Locate Portal
Divination
Level: Sor/Wiz 2, Wildspace 1
Components: V, S and M
Casting Time 1 minute
Range: Long (400 ft. + 40 ft. /level)
Target: Crystal shere
Duration: See text
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: No


    This spell only works when within range of the surface of a Crystal
Sphere. The caster of a locate portal can find the nearest portal through
the crystal shell either into or out of the Flow (phlogiston). The spell
indicates direction and distance (either in miles or in travel time, should
the wizard know the particulars of his own ship).

    In general, from any point in the crystal shell, a portal suitable for a
normal sizes ship can be found within 2-20 days travel. At the DM's option,
there may be more portals available, fewer or not at all.

    Material Component: A conch shell.

Alexander James listed this spell, but didn't post a description.

Best Regards,

Peter