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From: jamesriley <jamesriley@???.net> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:27:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [none]
Thank you for your prompt assistance in the matter regarding the Horseshoe Crab. I worked out the hull on the shipyard construction exel file found on beyond the moons with minimal rigging and it gave me a total of eight riggers plus cook/healer and officers for a total of 14 crew, but that didn't tell me if it was based on shift work or if that was total required for one shift. The unseen servant expense is not a problem in FeOsphere because of the high technological (magicological?) level there. As far as the unseen servant automation goes, I was looking at one spell for each specific task not general workers (e.g. upon command the unseen servants assigned to lower the landing gear would crank it into locking position, and another command would set the unseen servants assigned to hauling rigging to begin cranking specific pulleys they are assigned to. No thought process involved on their part just manual labor.) in the previous example I presume that I'll require 2 or 3 elite skilled bosuns to add to the crew. The google search you mentioned might be the same one I found, but I think that included weapons crews. I'm glad you brought up repairs, the plan also included building 12 ships with 9 running continuous trips and 3 in the docks for maintenance rotating out in sequence, but I had completely forgotten about having a repairship on standby. The tugs are not a problem either because I already have a dedicated tug class for my rockjacks to use and they are on call as needed. Oddly enough I based my tugs on a tradesman hull with 3 different engine/helm types on board each one to give them extra towing power. For insystem use I prefer the gravity drive coupled to either a pump or major helm. The bunkerage for the pumps on the H.C. class can come out of the excessive cargo space I built into the vessels. Since pumps run on normal matter and these ships will mostly haul raw materials that shouldn't be too big of an expense, but if you know where I can find a table that gives power output for material types I would like to see it. My players plan to let the FRN supply destroyers and frigates to escort duty insystem, for a convoy of 9 cargo ships my players are thinking of using 3 military escorts ( 1 destroyer and 2 frigates) since the military ships have to patrol anyway they can kill two birds with one mission. I personally think this is a bad idea but so far nothing in space has been able to stand up to the might of the FRN. The kind of bad guys that could possibly attack the convoy would have to be some truly dangerous monster to get to the cargo ships and destroy one, and even then it won't get much for its pain except ore and broken ship parts. The terrorists on Harpers world might get ahold of some kind of ship and do a suicide run just to upset the economy, but again that's unlikely. Getting back to the subject at hand, my calculations so far have come up with a ship that, exclusive of engine/helm, costs about 300,000 gp each with another 150,000 gp for enchantments and magical outfitting. For a fleet of 12 this is pretty workable, economics wise, for my sphere. Of course there will not be any profit shown for the first 3-5 years because of the nature of the cargo (raw iron, nickel, copper, etc. mined from the asteroid belts and wood and food stuffs from the planets to the processing stations) but these are being subsidized by the state to keep a steady reliable stream of materials and goods going both ways thru the system to eliminate monthly price fluctuations in food and balance supply and demand. FYI the FeOsphere contains 3 inhabited planets with 5 inhabited moons and 3 asteroid belts(2 belts and a swarm) and 9 processing stations not counting Gibralter Base(Rock of Bral). All the rest of the celestial bodies in FeOsphere are uninhabitable by air breathing carbon based lifeforms. Thank you again for your help and advice, you can be sure I will add the valid points you brought up to my calculations before my players get an answer from the Senate on the subsidy. V/R FC2 Riley, James R. cel: 228-249-2967 e-mail: jamesriley@???.net -----Original Message----- From: Spelljammer Setting Discussion [mailto:SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com] On Behalf Of Dreamer Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 6:51 PM To: SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com Subject: Re: [SPELLJAMMER] In <URL:news:local.spelljam> on Sun 11 Dec, jamesriley wrote: Someone trying to do organised spelljamming merchanting.
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| [none] | Pat | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin BladeStorm | |||
| Re: [none] | Static | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin BladeStorm | |||
| Re: [none] | Static | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | rupert smith | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Andrew J. Stott | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Shawn O'Reilly | |||
| Re: [none] | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Shawn O'Reilly | |||
| Re: [none] | Dave Lebert | |||
| Re: [none] | Patrick Stutzman | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Belon Lord | |||
| Re: [none] | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: [none] | Peter Mikelsons | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Shawn O'Reilly | |||
| Re: [none] | George Lavalle | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: [none] | Bart Dedecker | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Pat | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: [none] | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: [none] | Everclear | |||
| Re: [none] | Dave Lebert | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: [none] | George Lavalle | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: [none] | Dave Lebert | |||
| Re: [none] | Paul Westermeyer | |||
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| Re: [none] | Dave Lebert | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Paul Westermeyer | |||
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| Re: [none] | 165 Corbin, Alexander 1LT | |||
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| Re: [none] | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: [none] | Paul Westermeyer | |||
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| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Patrick Stutzman | |||
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| Re: [none] | George Lavalle | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Static | |||
| [none] | Kevin D Karty | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Doubting Eric | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Ahzad | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Rupert Smith | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Kevin D Karty | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Afterburner | |||
| Re: [none] | Patrick Stutzman | |||
| Re: [none] | Wizards Shopper | |||
| Re: [none] | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: [none] | Jim Sheetz | |||
| Re: [none] | Michael Seymour | |||
| Re: [none] | Afterburner | |||
| Re: [none] | Eric Pedersen | |||
| Re: [none] | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: [none] | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: [none] | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: [none] | Afterburner | |||
| [none] | Kevin D Karty | |||
| [none] | Kevin D Karty | |||
| Re: [none] | George Lavalle | |||
| Re: [none] | Eric Pedersen | |||
| [none] | Kevin D Karty | |||
| [none] | Kevin D Karty | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Afterburner | |||
| [none] | Kevin D Karty | |||
| Re: [none] | Rupert Smith | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Buddy Murphy | |||
| Re: [none] | jeffmandy | |||
| Re: [none] | Jim Sheetz | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Patrick Stutzman | |||
| Re: [none] | Afterburner | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Invoker | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Doubting Eric | |||
| [none] | avrjoe | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Scott Crosson | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Patrick Stutzman | |||
| Re: [none] | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: [none] | Deirdre M. Brooks | |||
| Re: [none] | Buddy Murphy | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Rian A. McMurtry | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [none] | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | George Lavalle | |||
| Re: [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | FC2 Daniel Davis | |||
| [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [none] | Rian A. McMurtry | |||
| Re: [none] | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [none] | Richard Gant | |||
| Re: [none] | Reinier Schot | |||
| Re: [none] | GROG THE ALMIGHTY | |||
| Re: [none] | GROG THE ALMIGHTY | |||
| Re: [none] | GROG THE ALMIGHTY | |||
| Re: [none] | Richard Gant | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Wizards Shopper | |||
| Re: [none] | Shea Silvermoon | |||
| Re: [none] | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [none] | wiskapious | |||
| Re: [none] | Richard Gant | |||
| [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | GROG THE ALMIGHTY | |||
| Re: [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [none] | Wizards Shopper | |||
| Re: [none] | Buddy Murphy | |||
| Re: [none] | George Lavalle | |||
| Re: [none] | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [none] | Buddy Murphy | |||
| Re: [none] | George Lavalle | |||
| Re: [none] | Buddy Murphy | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: [none] | George Lavalle | |||
| Re: [none] | Buddy Murphy | |||
| Re: [none] | Buddy Murphy | |||
| Re: [none] | George Lavalle | |||
| Re: [none] | Buddy Murphy | |||
| Re: [none] | Shea Silvermoon | |||
| Re: [none] | D.Shane Bryan | |||
| Re: [none] | Richard Gant | |||
| Re: [none] | Buddy Murphy | |||
| [none] | the goatunit | |||
| Re: [none] | James Gaines | |||
| [none] | David H | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Bart Dedecker | |||
| Re: [none] | George LaValle | |||
| [none] | FC2 Daniel Davis | |||
| Re: [none] | George LaValle | |||
| Re: [none] | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: [none] | FC2 Daniel Davis | |||
| Re: [none] | FC2 Daniel Davis | |||
| Re: [none] | GROG THE ALMIGHTY | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | Boris Karpa | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: [none] | Adam Miller | |||
| [none] | Tilaurin | |||
| [none] | james mangas | |||
| Re: [none] | Rian A. McMurtry | |||
| Re: [none] | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: [none] | Static | |||
| Re: [none] | james mangas | |||
| Re: [none] | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: [none] | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: [none] | Static | |||
| [none] | Buddy Aragon | |||
| Re: [none] | Static | |||
| Re: [none] | Rian A. McMurtry | |||
| [none] | Buddy Aragon | |||
| [none] | Michael Billard | |||
| [none] | George "Loki" Williams | |||
| [none] | George "Loki" Williams | |||
| Re: [none] | Mark Vorwerk | |||
| [none] | jamesriley | |||
| Re: [none] | Dreamer | |||
| Re: [none] | jamesriley | |||
| [none] | Michael Shell | |||
| Re: [none] | jamesriley | |||
| [none] | Michael Shell | |||
| Re: [none] | jamesriley | |||
| [none] | Michael Shell | |||
| Re: [none] | jamesriley | |||
| [none] | Michael Shell | |||
| Re: [none] | jamesriley | |||
| [none] | Michael Shell | |||
| Re: [none] | jamesriley | |||
| [none] | Michael Shell | |||
| Re: [none] | jamesriley | |||
| [none] | Michael Shell | |||
| Re: [none] | jamesriley | |||
| [none] | Michael Shell | |||
| Re: [none] | jamesriley | |||
| [none] | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: [none] | Michael Billard | |||
| [none] | limelizard | |||
| Re: [none] | David Shepheard | |||
| Re: [none] | Steven | |||
| Re: [none] | Loki |