Re: My take on 3e helms

A few comments on Craft Wondrous Item in relation to helms. 

In the Stronghold Builders Guide (A book that has a lot on wondrous 
architecture which can be transposed to SJ) they include the Craft Portal 
feat. This feat allows you to create a permanent gate to another plane in 
your stronghold. It also requires a caster level of 17. Something like this 
would, IMHO, be far mnore appropriate for making helms than Craft Wondrous 
Item. 

Helms are extremely powerful magic, I would say minor artifact level. They 
are only so common because of the Arcane (or Mercane if you prefer). 

I will try to write up a sample Craft Helm feat later, but dinner just 
arrived and I am starving!
Peace,
George "Loki" Williams

On 7/18/05, Dreamer <dreamer@??????.?????.??.uk> wrote:
> 
> In <URL:news:local.spelljam> on Sat 16 Jul, Night_Druid wrote:
> > Just tossing this out for the list to disect:
> >
> > Spelljamming Helm
> [snip]
> 
> > Cost & means of making?
> 
> These are some suggested costs that I posted previously (end of
> May 2005) about making helms based on the maker having "Craft
> Wonderous Item".
> 
> Do you think this is appropriate (I have very limited knowledge
> of 3e)?
> 
> 
> Assuming we pinch as much from 2e as possible, I assume that you
> would use the Create Minor Helm (arcane 6th, divine 5th) and the
> Create Major Helm (arcane 7th) spells as the spells required to
> make a Helm. Looking at these, I don't think Permanence would
> also be required.
> 
> The item price is then the one given in "Concordance of Arcane
> Space":
> 
> 100k = Minor
> 250k = Major
> 75k = Series
> 100k = Furnace
> 
> 'Crown of the Stars' and Artifurnaces are assumed to be
> artifacts, needing "Create Artifact", and the other sorts of Helm
> are of less immediate interest.
> 
> Furnace Helms are obviously limited, as they cannot go into the
> phlogiston, and Series Helms are most likely of interest to
> psionics and others who cannot use the arcane or divine magic
> energies they possess to power a Helm. Some DMs might have 'Minor
> Psionic Helm' and 'Major Psionic Helm', which psionics use
> instead of a Series Helm.
> 
> 
> So assuming I understand the above, you need to create an arcane
> magic Minor Helm someone with arcane magic capable of casting the
> "Create Minor Helm" 6th level spell (11th Wizard?), the "Create
> Wonderous Item" feat, 100 days work, 50,000gp of raw materials,
> and 4,000xp to permanently invest in the Minor Helm.
> 
> It can be assumed that the cost of raw materials includes at
> least a suitable normal chair or seat as required when casting
> the "Create Minor Helm" arcane spell.
> 
> If the enchanter level is 11th then, if this is equivalent to the
> caster level of the spell, this Minor Helm can power a 22-ton
> ship. This would mean that the standard Minor Helm with its
> capacity of 50 tons implies an enchanter of 25th level.
> Alternatively, maybe 50 tons is the standard for an enchanted
> rather than a spell-created Minor Helm.
> 
> Another approach would be to say that enchantment roughly doubles
> the capacity, to a maximum of 50 tons, so a 13th or higher level
> enchanter would produce a 'standard' Minor Helm. This is probably
> not worth messing around with, though, so the standard of 50 tons
> makes more sense.
> 
> Major Helm is then 13th enchanter, 250 days work, 125,000gp of
> raw materials, and 10,000xp. 39 ton ship minimum (standard 100
> tn is probably recommended instead). If you used the doubling
> rule, above, 17th would be produce a 'standard' Major Helm.
> 
> --
> Dreamer
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