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From: David Shepheard <david_shepheard@???????.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 04:21:06 -0000 Subject: Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dreamer" <dreamer@??????.?????.??.uk> Subject: [SPELLJAMMER] [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article > If DMs consider that the history of spelljamming goes back > thousands or tens of thousands of years, and even further if you > talk to the elves or dragons, they may wish to ask why it has > been reasonably stable. They may care to say that, just as in > the 'real world', all sorts of discoveries have been made over > the ages. These would include the inventions of ancient Greece, > or China, or Arabia. However, the right combination of > circumstances never quite arose so these gave rise to a > technological civilisation. And, that the situation is the same > in the Spelljamming setting. Or, they may want there to be some > sort of stabilising force, which works secretly, behind the > scenes, gradually smoothing out any disruptions, that would cause > radical changes to the Spelljamming meta-culture. If so, then > any contact with a high tech civilisation might be the trigger > for this stabilising force to go into action. Possibly foiling, > if not completely resisting, any attempts by PCs or others to > 'upgrade' the Spelljamming meta-culture with high tech. I would have thought that the stabilising force, of which you speak, is the Imperial Elven Navy. They have the most powerful fleet in wildspace and are the most organised society. Despite their losses in the two Unhuman Wars, they almost certainly possess a lot of detailed records of many societies in hundreds if not thousands of crystal spheres. If the technical devices that you speak of are randomly coming in and out of use over time, the probability is that the IEN would stumble onto some of these inventions. The feeling I get about the IEN is that, just like groundling elves, they have an affinity for nature. However, unlike grounding elves, they seem willing to sacrifice their own connection to nature in order to protect the greater good for the majority of elves. An example of this would be Bionoids. The way Bionoids are portrayed in The Cloakmaster Novels, leads me to believe that most Elves find them disgusting. Yet despite their apparent distaste the IEN were willing to convert some Elves into these sub-Elven creatures, when they didn't have any other option. (In our real history we have examples of weapons being designed to defeat particular armour designs and armour being designed to defeat particular weapon designs.) With a stable culture and long term knowledge of such things, I am sure that the Elves are aware of previous arms races on planets that they have watched. They must be aware that if they deploy advanced magic or technology, their enemies will get hold of it and work on improvements. I get the impression that the IEN know that they are getting more and more overstretched and in some spheres have control, purely because they have the respect of the other cultures in the sphere. I would think that under the circumstances it would not be unreasonable for the IEN to consider using spies to seek out the very people that you mention and find ways to slow down their work as much as possible. Alternatively the IEN could find an isolated sphere and locate disillusioned philosophers and would be scientists to relocate there. These people could then be allowed to get their experimentation out of their system in a controlled environment that would not pollute their own cultures. Better still the IEN would always have the option for using some of these secret inventions if they really got into trouble. I can imagine the IEN creating a 'Stepford Elves' style society, with for example a curious human with dangerous ideas that his fellows laugh at, being invited into adventuring parties, expeditions and other events that are all organised by undercover operatives. The eventual aim could be for them to reject their own backward culture and break out with people they are convinced are a group of likeminded friends to live on a new world where they can work in piece. Their colleges, friends, mentor, and perhaps even their husband or wives could be IEN stooges. Because Elves live a lot longer than other races an Elf that agreed to work on this sort of project could spend hundreds of years interacting with a particular race in order to be able to blend into the community and work effectively with their targets. If they worked with someone over a period of years they could shoehorn that person out of their environment so slowly that the person would never suspect anything. They might even genuinely come to care for those people. As long these people were allowed to continue with their work and got the right number of challenges they might never realise what was happening. They could live out a happy full life and never realise they were being conned. But if any of them decided to leave and go back home they could be 'disposed' of if the IEN, thought it was dangerous for them to leave. I know some people object to the behaviour of some of the Elves in the Cloakmaster Novels, but it is an option that some members of the IEN would probably consider at some point. Even if 99 percent of Elves reject the idea out of hand, there might still be a tiny group of Elves doing this in secret, in an attempt to minimise the risk that Elves will start inventing things that put their society (and the societies of grounding Elves that I'm sure the IEN feels they are single-handedly protecting) at risk. There could even be an organisation doing this that the IEN leadership knows nothing about. This theoretical organisation might even have held back technology in the two Unhuman Wars in order to protect the secret of its existence. They may only reveal themselves when they have totally overwhelming odds and can kill all of their opponents and destroy all evidence that they had been there. Don't forget that with magic and the ability to communicate with the dead this is a lot less likely to occur that you would expect. For example: a secret force of Elven Technomancers that fought against a Scro ship would have to be sure that they could disrupt all magical travel and communication, kill everybody on board, utterly destroy the souls of all the dead and disintegrate every part of the ship and the bodies before anyone found them. If they couldn't be totally sure that they could do that they would have to steer clear of the ship and allow it to complete its mission. David "Big Mac" Shepheard Virtual Eclipse Role Playing Club http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/virtualeclipselrp/links/d20_system_001071937434/Spelljammer_001071430476 http://virtualeclipse.aboho.com/
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Month Index: January, 2005
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| [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | Dreamer | |||
| Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | Ben Wafer | |||
| Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | Dreamer | |||
| Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | Dreamer | |||
| Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | David Shepheard | |||
| Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | Dreamer | |||
| Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | Michael Billard | |||
| Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | David Shepheard | |||
| Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | Dreamer | |||
| Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | George "Loki" Williams | |||
| Re: [ItV] Spelljamming and Technology - article | Thatotherguy |