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From:     Trampas Whiteman <dragonhelm@??????????.net>
Date:     Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:20:04 -0800
Subject:  Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings
Quite honestly, folks, I'm tired of the Spider Moon bashing.  I understand
the opinions of Spider Moon all too well.  In fact, they mirror many (but
not all) opinions of Dragonlance fans for the Fifth Age materials.

I'll address a few points from Thatotherguy's post here, then move on to
some other things.

>Spider Moon
>is far less than inspiring, it is, in fact, a waste.

I disagree.  It adds a new setting and new game mechanics, plus a glimpse
of one possible view of Spelljammer in 3e.


>Space travel is
>treated haphazardly (in fact, it's basically ignored by saying roll a
>couple dice) in favor of prestige classes and feats, some of which
>really have nothing to do with SJ (in other words, they are generic).

Perhaps there were some generic feats, but the rules material is a welcome
addition, IMHO.


>You say anything that moves the setting forward is good.  Spider Moon
>ignored the existing setting so obviously it didn't move it forward.

Maybe it didn't move it forward, but it added to it.


>You say anything that inspires people to turn to SJ is god but Spider
>Moon turns people away.

This isn't the case.  On the WotC boards, there were several posters who
got into SJ due to Spider Moon, and who were eager to learn more about the
classic setting.

I've seen more people driven away by the negative criticisms of fans,
truth be told.


Spelljammer is a setting of infinite possibilities and infinite ideas.  It
is a setting of settings.  It is a tool to use to get from one setting to
another.  It is something we can build upon into infinity, if we so
desired.

I know that Spider Moon wasn't the most popular with many of you on this
list.  The same can be said for 3rd edition in general.  Yet bashing both
will get us nowhere.  All it will do is cause feelings to be hurt, and
start yet another flame war.

Rather than harp on the supposed "evils" of Spider Moon, focus instead on
the things you enjoy.  If you like creating materials for SJ, then focus
on what attracts your attention.  In my case, I go for Krynnspace since I
have a great love for both Spelljammer and Dragonlance.

Rather than harp on the supposed "evils" of 3rd edition, let's all focus
instead on the rules systems we like.  If I have materials for 3e, and
Adam has materials for Hackmaster, it's all cool.  Maybe we can learn
something new about SJ simply from the presentation of the setting in
multiple editions.


So in this setting of infinite possibilities, let's all try to move beyond
our own prejudices, and let's call a truce.  Let's each enjoy the parts of
Spelljammer we enjoy, while allowing others to do the same, even if we
disagree.

Trampas
Wanderer of Celestian


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SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    George "Loki" Williams    09 Nov 2003 17:05:59
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    Leroy Van Camp III    09 Nov 2003 20:21:40
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    Rian A. McMurtry    09 Nov 2003 20:27:17
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    Thatotherguy    10 Nov 2003 14:17:34
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    Trampas Whiteman    10 Nov 2003 19:42:13
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    Trampas Whiteman    10 Nov 2003 20:20:04
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    George "Loki" Williams    10 Nov 2003 23:51:13
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    Leroy Van Camp III    11 Nov 2003 00:59:48
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    Danton May    12 Nov 2003 16:30:37
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    George "Loki" Williams    12 Nov 2003 23:36:20
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    Leroy Van Camp III    13 Nov 2003 01:10:40
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    Danton May    02 Dec 2003 01:54:07
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    Nancy E (Lea) Hall    02 Dec 2003 03:23:40
Re: SotSM and Re: Dragon 315 Revists Old Settings    George "Loki" Williams    02 Dec 2003 04:16:42

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