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From: Leroy Van Camp III <malacoda@????????.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:02:34 -0600 Subject: Re: Love for an Edition That Lost (was Spacebuckler Updates)
Everyone likes stories, right? If I had to make a list of my top 5 RPG settings, SJ would likely be at the top. Also in there somewhere would be the setting for White Wolf's Mage: The Ascension (Note I mean Mage specifically, not the whole World of Darkness). I think it is a fascinating and versatile setting where you can play many, many different types of games, from a gritty, street-level game to a cosmic voyaging campaign, mixing the flavors of SJ and Planescape, and many things in between. At some point WW came out with Mage 3e (They called it "2nd Edition Revised" but this was a pure marketing crock. If there was ever an edition of a game that wasn't simply a "revised" but rather a fully new edition, it was Mage 3e). I bought it with great glee and excitement, but I was soon filled with disappointment and anger. Mage 3e, in my opinion, was a castrated version of the setting, and seemed to be castrated because the authors didn't like aspects of 2e, and couldn't find solutions other than the most blunt. On the primary Mage mailing list debate and flames ran for weeks. Some lauded the new Mage, others lambasted it. To make matters worse, some of the authors of the game were on the list, and they often referred to the "problems" with 2e, which I got tired of, since I rarely saw what they referred to as problems as being bad things, and were often good things. I heard quotes from the primary developer that were made on Usenet, and many of those annoyed me. During this time I made my opinion heard, along with many others. Mage was going a direction I did not like, and I felt they were likely to lose me as a Mage customer. What was the point of buying books that were half-filled with a metaplot I didn't like and wouldn't use? After a while, though, things calmed down some. I was unhappy, and really got tired of all the posts referring to the new stuff in Mage I didn't use. For me the signal-to-noise was getting worse and worse. But, I stuck around, and enjoyed those posts I found useful. You know what I didn't do? Take pot shots at Mage 3e. After the first couple of weeks, whenever someone brought up stuff particular to Mage 3e, I just deleted that message. And whenever someone would gush over 3e and say how they felt it fixed all those silly mistakes from 2e, I just deleted it. I know what its like. I have been there. But I got over it, and so can others. Some people are excited over some of the 3e/d20 products that have a similarity to Spelljammer. Why piss in their pool? Leroy Van Camp III malacoda@????????.net ICQ #20039817 There is a time for bingo and there is a time for funerals. Try to keep them separate.
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| Subject | From | Date (UTC) | ||
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| Love for an Edition That Lost (was Spacebuckler Updates) | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Love for an Edition That Lost (was Spacebuckler Updates) | Trampas Whiteman |