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From: Thatotherguy <spellj@??????????.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:49:48 -0700 Subject: Re: Magic to aid farming in space
> In 1820, (yeah, I know, but it was all I could find) 90% of the US > population > was rural. By, 1990 the number was less than 10%. I would suggest > that farming > in the 1820's was better, but not hugely better than renaissance > farming > techniques. I like the 90% number in that it makes any math very > easy, but > understand that it may not be accurate. For renaissance farming > productivity, I > would suggest 20 to 1? I suggest US farming in the 1820s was not better than renaissance, in fact I suggest it was worse than areas like Europe that had all that nice support going for so long (like irrigational, canals, Roman aqueducts...). The US rural population was hardly all farmers as well. There were many prospectors, hunters, etc. There were also many farmers who were subsistence farmers and didn't support any cities or whatnot. And they had a lot of frontier to deal with while a farming asteroid is probably pretty safe except from scavvers (until something that wipes the asteroid out like neogi or illithids comes along but then you don't have to worry about the farms)--the point is, wandering animals, bad weather effects, and so on made farming in the US in 1820 much more unreliable than a stable asteroid can handle once it's infrastructure is set up. > See above for what may be more "accurate" ratios. Also, from some of > the > reading, farmers made what they could, but they couldn't make much. Actually wasn't there some sort of pre-industrial revolution when merchants started organizing this rural labor? As well, many farmers were nearly self-sufficient. > From a game perspective, while I like everyday magic in my games, I > dont think > the idea of industrial scale magic works. Not a lot of wizards are > going to > make thousands of items when each item takes days to make, and you > lose > experience each time you make an item. Biggest difference here will probably the availability of druids and clerics but I agree mostly with the sentiment. The addition of magical water sources to some asteroids I don't think is too much of a stretch, however. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
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| Subject | From | Date (UTC) | ||
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| Magic to aid farming in space | Michael Sandy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Rodger Burns | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Boris Karpa | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Richard Myers | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Michael Sandy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Richard Myers | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Niche Johnson | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Michael Sandy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Richard Myers | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Eric Collins | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Niche Johnson | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Michael Sandy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Richard Myers | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Danton May | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Danton May | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Eric Collins | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Nancy E (Lea) Hall | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Rian A. McMurtry | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Richard Myers | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Danton May | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Richard Myers | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Richard Myers | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Nancy E (Lea) Hall | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Danton May | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Richard Myers | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Nancy E (Lea) Hall | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Danton May | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Burt Zoellick | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | Michael Wenturine | |||
| Re: Magic to aid farming in space | David Stairs |