Re: How many ships in Fleet? (LONG)

Please forgive the long absence before my reply.  I had a temporary job that
was taking most of my waking hours.  Now I'm catching up.  Thank you for the
clarification.

I guess I'll just have to say that my novel, on the outset, is going to have
a very different history, one I consider more realistic.

Yours truly,
Sable

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Miller" <nghtdrud@??????.net>
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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [SPELLJAMMER] How many ships in Fleet? (LONG)


> Sable O'Malley McRoy wrote:
> >
> > I was given to understand that as of the discontinuation of the
Spelljammer
> > products, the Second Unhuman War was still going on?  Am I mistaken?
Please
> > correct me if I am . . .
> >
>         The war is 'over'.  Here's a real rough history of events;
overall, the
> material can be a bit confusing:
>
> The Unhuman War II began in Goblin's Return, where PCs infiltrate a scro
> base called Gamero.  The War continues in the novel Maelstrom Eye, where
> the Elf Fleet at Bral is destroyed by a scro invasion force that crushed
> the world of Spiral.  The next novel is Radiant Dragon, where the scro
> captain is recruiting the goblins & orcs of Armatice.  In that novel, he
> muses when confronted about his activities that if the scro weren't so
> short of troops, he wouldn't need to be arming the goblins & orcs.  In
> that very same novel, the Fleet is only *just* becoming aware of the
> scro.
>         The war 'concludes' in the sequel to Goblin's Return, Heart of the
> Enemy, a generally poor adventure.  In that adventure, the elves are
> supposed to use a Witchlight Marauder to force the scro into a peace.
> By War Captain's Compendium & Spacefairer's Handbook, the war is assumed
> over.  Both sides entered into a low-grade skirmish war.  The elves
> emerge victorious with at least 2,500 surviving ships.  The scro were
> noted as stealing lots of small ships, such as eels, lampreys, & wasps,
> and going pirate.
>         Later, after the line was ended, came Dragon Annual 1.  It
described
> the scro extensively, and gave some more detail to the war.  Only action
> in two spheres, Realmspace & Greyspace.  In Realmspace, the scro fleet
> entered and then was crushed completely; some of their agents survived
> to give guns to orcs in the short story 'Gunne Runner'.  In Greyspace, a
> small fleet of scro ships met up with and led the orcs & goblins of
> Borka in a disasterous battle called the Borka Maneuver, where they were
> crushed.  A few ships escaped into the Grinder.  MUCH later, in the
> novel Evermeet, it is mentioned that an elf world was destroyed by the
> scro, orcs, & goblins, but the date I think was around the start of the
> War, I think.
>
>         These sources have made me conclude a few things about the scro &
the
> Unhuman War II.  First, it seems that the scro never attacked with any
> serious force the 'core' elven spheres.  Second, given the Fleet was
> *barely* aware of the scro, and the scro were already facing troop
> shortages, I'd say their overall numbers are pretty paltry.  Third, it
> kinda strikes me that people are grossly overestimating the scro and
> their abilities.  In all official sources, the elves kicked their butts
> in like 3-5 years.  The Fleet wasn't even moblized at that point.  All
> the articles I've seen give them a far bigger population than they
> should have, a larger fleet than suggested in the material, & far more
> compentence than they really displayed.
>         Scro are tough, there's no denying that.  But it seems that their
role
> in SJ was similiar to that of the original drow: the leaders &
> instigators of goblins & orcs, but lacked the numbers to get into a real
> fight.  For every scro, there should be like 5 goblins, orcs, or ogres:)
>         Anyways, that's a bit of my take on the scro.
>
> --
> Adam Miller
>
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