Re: SJD20 question - Cost to the pilot?

Of course, this is much better than most planes, because it goes an AU a
day. Supposing you can do the calculations right, you can leave your
planet's gravity, go "boing" and wind up on the other side of the planet,
then land...
It's like owning a concord.

Anyway...My first character had 400,000 gp by the end of the campaign. Not
to mention assorted magical items and such. If we had been playing SJ the
party probably could have financed a fleet. It would have been interesting,
too, because we would basically wind up broke doing so.

I admit I could deal with helms being cheaper. Maybe not *too* cheap, but
cheaper. I have a question or two for those of you who've read the thing. Do
the helms just maintain the air, or do they make it? Do I not have to worry
about breathing so long as I have a spellboy to sit on the helm, or can my
first level thief sit down on the hlem and start making air...?

I swear I'm gonna have to buy this one to find some things out.

~George LaValle
"He's a Phantom, he can walk straight through walls"
-Scooby Doo

>From: Niall Hosking <talmyr@?????.com>
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>Subject: Re: [SPELLJAMMER] SJD20 question - Cost to the pilot?
>Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 00:36:40 +0100
>
> > > Helms are now 20,000 and 50,000 for minor and
> > major respectively IIRC.
> >
> > <blink><blink><blink> You have got to be BSing me,
> > right?  You mean
> > they've effectively reduced helms to carpets of
> > flying?  No, wait, some
> > of the carpets are MORE EXPENSIVE!  I can hear the
> > "munchkin" cries
> > already.  I have GOT to get me some of whatever
> > they're smok'n, because
> > man, that HAS to get you stoked good!
> >
> > --
> > Adam Miller
>
>Well, helms were always massively overpriced in the
>original game. Really, for most people who didn't have
>a spare 100,000 gp (the price of a reasonable size
>/castle/ for goodness sake!) the only practical
>methods of getting a helm were to be gifted one, rent
>one, or to steal one. Certainly the prices were WAY
>too high to support the kind of numbers of ships and
>the trading, exploring and pirating levels portrayed
>in the game.
>
>Imagine that your options to cross America are to fly
>in a plane you have to buy (for a few million $),
>maybe to rent one (limited to commercial routes) for
>$500+ a trip... or to walk. Then anyone who offers up
>the option of even a horse-drawn cart is going to make
>a killing...
>
>So really most people would shell out a few tens of
>thousands of gold for continual air and food devices,
>and take months to sail anywhere using a more basic
>helm... like in the old time sailing ships on Earth.
>Or they'll all move to the less 'savoury' forms of
>helm like lifejammers. All you need is slaves... cheap
>and plentiful.
>
>This just makes helms available practically to people
>without being stupidly expensive, and therefore
>requiring massive inflation of gold rewards, which 2E
>could survive, but 3e isn't designed to bear.
>
>
>
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>Niall Hosking
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>
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