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From: Paul Westermeyer <westermeyer.3@???.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 10:26:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona
>From: "Downer, Chris" <Chris.Downer@?????????.com> >Why does WOTC have to ask this list about releasing a product? Not the list (of course not). _Static_. The guy whose put so much work into the 'Official' website. >And what is the point of boycotting this product? >Should you at least see if the product is to your liking before boycotting >it. It's not about like/dislike. It is about how they treat Static, and the 'official' websites. Those on the list when the Council idea was first floated will recall i was _against_ the idea. I said look, we'll end up doing a ton of work, and then it will be completely ignored. 'So what?' you might say? See, here's the thing. WotC has turned their 'dead' game worlds over to fans to run through 'official' websites. That _seems_ like WotC being nice, because that is what fanatic fans of the setting (ie us) want. But it is not altruistic. See, WotC keeps the setting alive, and a spark of interest in it by doing this, a kernal of fan support should they decide to reissue it. And what does it cost them to maintain this min level of value for the intellectual property (the setting)? Nothing, because the website costs and work are handled on a _volunteer_ basis by the website owners. Now, in theory, the webmasters like Static get something in return, 'Official' status. This is meaningless while the game system is dead, but the understanding is that when the game is revived previous 'Official' material will be considered. In otherwords, those who worked to keep the setting alive and valuable will have some say in the reincarnation, some ability to shape it.This isn't directly promised, it's vaguely implied. Vaguely implied because, as I suspected all along, WotC has no intention of giving fans any say, no matter how minor, in product design. That's why we've been so worried about canon, because we thought it mattered. Clearly it doesn't. See, Static has worked his butt off with the site, helped to keep SJ alive, introduced new fans to the setting, basically, for free, maintained the value of their intellectual commodity. Now WotC is planning to cash in that commodity and they didn't have the intellectual honesty to even email Static, the guy running the official website. They didn't have to offer it for his approval, or pay him, just acknowledge he is there, acknowledge that someone had been keeping that spark alive and might have something to contribute. And I could understand them forgetting, an honest mistake. But not even a simple apology? A simple 'We should have contacted him.'? They screwed him. They _stole_ years of his life where he worked on the site. I'm _tired_ of WotC screwing people. I'm _upset_ that exactly what I said would happen, is what has happened. I don't care if Spelljammer is revivied. I don't care if the article is the best thing since Gary stole the Roleplaying idea from Arneson. I do care about people. I do care about Static. I am not giving money anymore to a company which continues to screw _people_. I'd rather see SJ die then see WotC profit from stolen work. It's just an imaginary universe in a make-believe game. Static lives, breathes, and his been very nice to all of us. He may not agree, but he deserves no less from the SJ fan community. >I don't mean this as an insult but isn't this a bit on the exreme side. >Besides Paul you don't play 3e so this should not really affect you (being a >3e product and all.) Of course it effects me. Anything Spelljammer affects all SJ fans. If '3e' Spelljammer has nothing in common with SJ then the name, then SJ resources like this list will become useless, as half of us will be playing in one game world, and the othe rhalf in another. >Well I'm going to at least look at it to see if it is something I can use >just like I do with any product. I'm not one to boycott companies just >because they did not ask me first before putting out a product. Again, it's not about them not asking you, or me. It's about the official site being ignored. ><<<<[head shake] Good lord. Can they not simply apologize for not >contacting Static? The guys just about _bleeds_ for Spelljammer and >they ignore the work they 'promised' would be 'the' official >Spelljammer site. If they had just contacted Static ahead of time we >would all be their most enthusiastic supporters, great sources of >word of mouth. But no, respect for fans is apparently against their >company creed. > >Then, they can't even be civil enough to apologize for the oversight. > >We just get more 'oh, it's cool cause I say it is' WotC hype. > >Please, don't buy it. Not because it will suck (who knows if it will >or not?) but because they have shown again they have no respect for >fans. Let's stop giving them our money. Let's make them regret _not_ >showing Static some respect. > >Please, don't buy this just because it says 'Spelljammer', they don't >deserve it.>>>> -- "We sleep safely in our beds, only because rough men stand guard in the night, ready to visit violence upon those who would do us harm." H.G. Wells. Paul Westermeyer, westermeyer.3@???.edu Phd Candidate, History, Ohio State University Instructor, Humanities, Columbus State Community College
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Month Index: February, 2002
| Subject | From | Date (UTC) | ||
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| Forwarded from Eric Mona | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | BoglinLord@???.com | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Michael Schell | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Chris Paasch | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Flits3 Frietmuts | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Eric Anondson | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Michael Schell | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Rian A. McMurtry | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | BoglinLord@???.com | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Static | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | john | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Eric Anondson | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Michael Wenturine | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | woodelf | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | TayJK | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Eric Anondson | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Patrick Stutzman | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Static | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Disruptor | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | CHRIS L DICKINSON | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Disruptor | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | woodelf | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | woodelf | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | TayJK | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Disruptor | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Michael Wenturine | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Static | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | George LaValle | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | woodelf | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | woodelf | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Static | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Patrick Stutzman | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Static | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Static | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Thatotherguy | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Chris Paasch | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Chris Paasch | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Sergeant Krag | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Sergeant Krag | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Sergeant Krag | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Static | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Patrick Stutzman | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | woodelf | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | BoglinLord@???.com | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Sergeant Krag | |||
| Re: Forwarded from Eric Mona | Schot, Reinier |