Re: helm values

Leroy Van Camp III wrote:
>
> 3e has some handy guidelines for the amount of treasure to hand
> out at any given level for a given encounter difficulty. It has guidelines
> for the value of treasure and equipment they should have at any
> given level. You can look and see that on average a character
> of level X should have approximately Y in gp value of treasure and
> equipment. Thus, yes, you could say ship A and helm B cost
> C in gp, and this on the average you need to be level D, since
> the average total treasure they have at that level is the about the
> same as the above cost.
>
        This is part of the reason why I started all this with the 'Space
Travel without Helms' thread.  Magic items, no matter what, are going to
be more expensive than most mid-sized ships.  One of the biggest
compaint about the setting is the helm prices & how the whole economy
didn't make sense.  Figured since we had funky phyics to begin with, why
not run with it? :)

> None of this has to do with any major shortcoming of 3e. Ships
> are costs above and beyond the rest of the character's stuff, and
> 3e doesn't have guidelines for these kinds of situations. To be
> honest, I had these kinds of problems when I ran SJ using
> 2e (or, my own modified version). They just weren't as prominent.
>
        That's one bad thing about the 3e DMG: there is no such thing as
modifiers for social classes.  I think I would have had a chart of
modifiers at least for NPCs (that and an NPC class generator).  Maybe
something like:

beggar          x1/10
poor            x1/4
average         x1/2
rich            x2
wealthy         x10
very wealthy    x100

        or something...:)
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Adam Miller