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From: Andrew 'NightBeing' Alchemist <xboct@??????.??????.kz> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:07:51 +0600 Subject: Re: LONG -- SJ+Planes / Drow Question / Ranting -- LONG
Good Night > Has anyone even considered something along the lines of a > phase-cloak system similar to the Romulans' phase cloaking device? > One possibility may be that the ships could phase into the Border > Ethereal, pass through the surface without the need of any kind of > tunnel or hangar and then phase back to the Prime. Mind you, severe > limitations would be needed to prevent its use in battle and keep > its use limited to passing through the surface (maybe even an item > that gives them the phase ability with a maximum of 2 charges and > can only be charged in the Underdark). But, it would take care of > the security problem. BTW, did anyone ever thought WHY mixing SJ and planes is considered at least a bad taste? ;) If we start creating such kind of things, few questions arise, in an order: 1) Do SJ helms function on other planes? If they don't: a) You'll be unable to move the ship there b) There's a possibility that they will not function anymore even after return to PMP If they do: Then why in all hells the SJ ships aren't commonly equipped with plane-hopping devices, and not used extensively on other planes? Do I need to mention such places as Limbo to make a point that drow aren't among the top ten of planehoppers among SJ-aware races, and aren't even on par with some of SJ-expert races? Why SJ ships don't travel in such a state -- for it is MUCH quicker, and safer in some aspects like air and asteroids? And, finally, one question that was ALWAYS on my mind. It isn't related to planes. Could anyone give me any GOOD reason why SJ ships aren't used "down there"? I could get some points that strongly suggest otherwise... So really, the above question could transform into "Why it is a bad taste to mix SJ with anything non-SJ, including groundlings?", and the answer will likely be: "Because it kills the credibility of SJ". The drow question certainly falls into the same category. It is, basically: "Why land-dwellers don't use SJ ships?" If we ask why drow don't SJ, and how to make them, then why we aren't asking questions like: Example #1: Many rulers could easily afford a small fleet of SJ ships. Not too few of them are SJ-aware. Imagine some medium or large ship packed with troops suddenly landing in the dead of the night in a critical location of enemy's territory? These troops will not need to worry about months-long fighting advance, not even too much about supplies. Imagine a lone dragonfly hovering over an enemy's positions acting as a recon? Imagine it has all of its 5-ton cargo bay loaded with incendiaries? Now give me a reason why they don't do it? WHY every aspiring emperor does not use SJ ships to conquer the entire planet? Example #2: Let's consider trade. There are many SJ ships that go here and there doing trade business. They don't make a LOT of money, otherwise even their sailor would have been rich people, AND the SJ piracy would have been hundred-fold more common. Now consider the use of SJ ship for on-planet trade. There aren't too much goods that get traded interplanetarily (especially, if we have a situation when SJing needs to remain concealed). Examples from the "Spelljammer" computer game when you are commissioned to ferry a ton or two of broadswords or even wood from some very-well developed port to another no less developed, on another planet, made me feel dumb. But there's a LOT of goods that make a HUGE profit down there. Ordinary ship could take a few months of risky travel to get a cargo of spice or exotic craftsmanship from one continent to another. For SJ ship, it is a matter of maximum of half-a-week, to lift off and touch down at another point of the planet. And the hazards are much less, if not to say zeroed. So, WHY every SJ captain who's in need of some quick cash does not make a few such trips in a time it takes to reach the nearest other planet? WHY trade empires like real-world Hanseatic League or Venetians don't use SJ ships? And the Drow are the dark-dwellers to boot. One occasional Drow in the Space is OK, but do we need to pull to the stars every groundling race that just does not belong there? Why we aren't talking Kobold starfleets? They need much less space and supplies, so they have MUCH more probability to find their niche there. Why there aren't too much SJ Minotaurs? Do Giffs beat them to the pulp? Why not put Treefolk in the skies? They certainly could get along with EIN very well ;) BTW, do EIN plant-ships have an air-regeneration capability? ;) Good Luck Andrew "NightBeing" Alchemist
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Month Index: November, 2001
| Subject | From | Date (UTC) | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| LONG -- SJ+Planes / Drow Question / Ranting -- LONG | Andrew 'NightBeing' Alchemist | |||
| Re: LONG -- SJ+Planes / Drow Question / Ranting -- LONG | Patrick Stutzman | |||
| Re: LONG -- SJ+Planes / Drow Question / Ranting -- LONG | Patrick Stutzman | |||
| Re: LONG -- SJ+Planes / Drow Question / Ranting -- LONG | Silmacar Halfelven | |||
| Re: LONG -- SJ+Planes / Drow Question / Ranting -- LONG | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: LONG -- SJ+Planes / Drow Question / Ranting -- LONG | Richard Gant | |||
| Re: LONG -- SJ+Planes / Drow Question / Ranting -- LONG | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: LONG -- SJ+Planes / Drow Question / Ranting -- LONG | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: LONG -- SJ+Planes / Drow Question / Ranting -- LONG | TayJK |