Re: Metacultures

Hmm... Don't know for sure about this, though there is a Beholder god
(Gzemnid) and an illithid god (Ilsensine the giant psionic brain, as close
to a worshippable diety as mind flayers could ever have). Both situated on
the Outlands (True Neutral Outer Plane) because everyone hates them.
Whether these beings create their followers or vice versa is unclear.
Now, I think Spelljammer is the source of the different genetic strands
theory.

As for Beholder tech, their ships (which I never liked that much, to be
honest) are made for them by the Arcane. They are quite organically
masterful themselves, apparently, because of all of the Beholder kin and
abominations and such that they create. And there are even Beholder mages,
though those are quite funky.

There are also the Gauths and Specators or whatever, Outer Planar Beholders
from Mechanus (aka Nirvana) summoned to protect things. This might indicate
some sort of divine origin for Beholders. (Are these the original watchers
which then changed wildly to create the other strains?)

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-----Original Message-----
From: FC2 Daniel Davis [mailto:davisd@????.????.mil]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: Metacultures


I thought that beholders were created by gods to gather infromation for
them.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: woodelf (lists) [SMTP:woodelph@????.net]
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 1:54 PM
> To:   SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com
> Subject:      Re: [SPELLJAMMER] Metacultures
>
> >".  first, i have a problem
> >  > >accepting any "Master Race" that both has no manipulative digits,
> and
> >  > >needs them.  beholder mouth-sticks?
> >
> >Hang on..Beholders have the telekinesis eye.  That's a pretty good
> >replacement for a manipulative digit.  In any case, since most Beholder
> tech
> >seems to be biological in origin...:)
>
> later stuff, yep.  i always figured that the beholders were an
> illithid creation (even in a magical world, i have trouble picturing
> them "evolving", and i doubt anybody less cocky than the illithid
> would create such a powerful menace).  and with the illithid penchant
> for genetic engineering, they coudl either be the source of the
> various beholder-kin, or have programmed the possibilities for them
> into the original beholders.
>
> am i the only one who remembers the mouth-sticks and other [silly]
> 'Realms expanded info on beholders (i believe it was pre-SJ, but i
> could be mis-remembering)?  mouth-sticks were a complex rod (don't
> remember if it explained who built them) with one or more manipulable
> digits/tools on the end, and control rods running inside that ended
> in control knobs/levers at the other end, so that a beholder could
> hold it in its mouth and activate/use it with it's tongue.
>
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> Eyes tend to be rather large in Anime. This is because they contain
> several gallons of water, which may be instantaneously released at high
> pressure through large tear ducts. The actual volume of water contained
> in the eyes is unknown, as there is no evidence to suggest that these
> reservoirs are actually capable of running out. The reason water tends
> to collect in the eyes is because Anime characters only have one large
> sweat gland, which is located at the back of the head. When extremely
> stressed, embarrassed, or worried, this sweat gland exudes a single but
> very large drop of sebaceous fluid.
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