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From:     "Downer, Chris" <Chris.Downer@?????????.com>
Date:     Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:27:42 -0500
Subject:  Re: hardness and other ship things
If you have ever played GURPS they have this system in ARMOR. They have
DR=Damage Resistance, which works excatly like Hardness. And the have
PD=Passive defense which works like AC.


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Gant [mailto:gantr@???.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:02 PM
To: SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com
Subject: Re: [SPELLJAMMER] hardness and other ship things


On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Leroy Van Camp III wrote:

> Actually, I don't think anyone is arguing over whether or not a ship
> should have a hardness. That is a given with 3e. What some of us
> don't want is hardness when it comes to heavy weapons and
> ship-to-ship combat. Some of us (not many, as we are in the minority)
> feel it is more numbers that add little to the game, especially with
> larger battles with multiple ship types.
>
> In the end, hardness does the same thing as AR: reduce the average
> amount of damage a ship takes in a round. Hardness, though, adds
> an entirely new number to the mix to do it. Neato.

I'd be in favor of ditching AR almost entirely, in favor of Hardness.
Make all ships AR 10, with hit bonuses modified entirely by such things as
range, bearing, and relative speed.  Then use hardness to determine
whether or not the shot actually had any effect.

(Of course, I rather wish that 3E had done something similar with personal
armor, now that I've seen Hardness in action.)

Richard Gant
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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    05 Apr 2001 05:48:32
Re: hardness and other ship things    Leroy Van Camp III    05 Apr 2001 18:56:53
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    05 Apr 2001 20:58:30
Re: hardness and other ship things    Richard Gant    05 Apr 2001 22:02:07
Re: hardness and other ship things    Downer, Chris    05 Apr 2001 21:27:42
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    05 Apr 2001 21:36:28
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    05 Apr 2001 21:41:56
Re: hardness and other ship things    Rian A. McMurtry    05 Apr 2001 21:53:35
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    05 Apr 2001 22:15:10
Re: hardness and other ship things    George LaValle    05 Apr 2001 22:47:41
Re: hardness and other ship things    FC2 Daniel Davis    06 Apr 2001 12:18:31
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    06 Apr 2001 10:57:32
Re: hardness and other ship things    Downer, Chris    06 Apr 2001 13:06:58
Re: hardness and other ship things    Richard Gant    06 Apr 2001 17:11:37
hardness and other ship things    Korimyr the Rat    07 Apr 2001 11:22:04
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    07 Apr 2001 22:47:25
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    07 Apr 2001 23:07:06
Re: hardness and other ship things    Jim Sheetz    08 Apr 2001 05:56:43
Re: hardness and other ship things    woodelf (lists)    07 Apr 2001 21:24:48
Re: hardness and other ship things    George LaValle    09 Apr 2001 16:53:54
Re: hardness and other ship things    woodelf (lists)    10 Apr 2001 00:21:02
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    12 Apr 2001 21:45:50
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    18 Apr 2001 21:27:22
Re: hardness and other ship things    George LaValle    18 Apr 2001 21:40:59
Re: hardness and other ship things    Downer, Chris    18 Apr 2001 21:43:37
Re: hardness and other ship things    George LaValle    18 Apr 2001 22:36:52
Re: hardness and other ship things    Joel Jackson    18 Apr 2001 23:26:41
Re: hardness and other ship things    Jim Sheetz    19 Apr 2001 00:50:17
Re: hardness and other ship things    George LaValle    19 Apr 2001 02:50:15
Re: hardness and other ship things    Joel Jackson    19 Apr 2001 02:57:47
Re: hardness and other ship things    Downer, Chris    19 Apr 2001 12:34:01
Re: hardness and other ship things    Downer, Chris    19 Apr 2001 13:50:10
Re: hardness and other ship things    Richard Gant    19 Apr 2001 16:26:30
Re: hardness and other ship things    George LaValle    19 Apr 2001 19:11:55
Re: hardness and other ship things    George LaValle    19 Apr 2001 19:28:58
Re: hardness and other ship things    Leroy Van Camp III    20 Apr 2001 02:41:01
Re: hardness and other ship things    woodelf (lists)    20 Apr 2001 05:47:49
Re: hardness and other ship things    George LaValle    21 Apr 2001 17:11:47
Re: hardness and other ship things    woodelf (lists)    21 Apr 2001 20:41:16
Re: hardness and other ship things    Smeazel    22 Apr 2001 16:34:29
Re: hardness and other ship things    Downer, Chris    23 Apr 2001 14:36:51
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    24 Apr 2001 21:52:43
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    25 Apr 2001 11:23:38
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    25 Apr 2001 11:27:52
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    25 Apr 2001 11:31:31
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    25 Apr 2001 11:39:50
Re: hardness and other ship things    Don Shaffer    25 Apr 2001 13:22:47
Re: hardness and other ship things    GROG THE ALMIGHTY    25 Apr 2001 20:33:00
Re: hardness and other ship things    Don Shaffer    26 Apr 2001 03:07:14

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