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From: Sebastian Lucier <sebastianlucier@???????.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:21:52 GMT Subject: Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e
To me, it's like being a Superman fan vs being a Batman fan. Powergamers are more into an epic, powerful struggle between good and evil. They live big, the fight big, they die big. The superman comic or Star Treck are powergaming to me. They are the best, the brightest, the first line of defense. I think the disdain of powergaming comes from the fact that it can be done very badly. In the hands of a bad gm, it turns into a Power Rangers type battle in which the winner of a battle is the one with the most "power" (whatever the hell that means). Usually the biggest fattest energy blast. On the other hand of the spectrum are the batman fans. They're looking for a gritty realistic story. A hero who could die from a lucky shot by some punk with a bow. Probably it's biggest downfall is that it can turn into an angst-fest of tragic heroes and an inability to change the world. White Wolf tries to walk the line between grittiness and characictures of angst. I think gritty games tend to be less common in D&D which is why people complain more about powergaming than angst-gaming. :) That's my $.02 Sebastian >From: "Downer, Chris" <Chris.Downer@?????????.com> >Reply-To: Discussion list for the Spelljammer campaign setting ><SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com> >To: SPELLJAMMER-L@??????.???????.com >Subject: Re: [SPELLJAMMER] Dead Worlds & D&D 3e >Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:53:57 -0500 > >I don't mind powergaming at all as long as there is roleplaying mixed into >it. > > > > > I've always been curious about this. I've been playing off > > and on for twenty > > years, and played just about every style you can think of. > > Why is it that > > many gamers have some esoteric disdain for powergaming? I've > > had lots more > > fun playing a cleric/mage with an 18/00 strength (and that's > > one of his > > lower stats), than I ever had playing less powerful > > characters. Of course, > > since he can eat orcs for breakfast (ewwww, what a gruesome > > thought), other > > enemies that match his power more closely tend to gravitate > > to him. It helps > > that he is a knight of Aglarond, and a border baron, > > bordering on Thay.... > > > > Powergamers unite and come out! > > > >******************************************************************** >The D&D; Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Welcome.asp >The Spelljammer Homepage: http://www.darkwood.cx/rpg/compendium >To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@??????.???????.com >with UNSUB SPELLJAMMER-L in the body of the message. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Graf | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | David Caveney | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Andrew Tiffany | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | avrjoe | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Graf | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Jim Sheetz | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Joseph D. Carriker, Jr. | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | David Caveney | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Doubting Eric | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | john | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | David Caveney | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Joseph D. Carriker, Jr. | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Joseph D. Carriker, Jr. | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Buddy Murphy | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | David Caveney | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Jim Sheetz | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Graf | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Jim Sheetz | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | john | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Joseph D. Carriker, Jr. | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | George Lavalle | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | George Lavalle | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | True Seeker | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | David Knott | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Joseph D. Carriker, Jr. | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | David Knott | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Joseph D. Carriker, Jr. | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Leroy Van Camp III | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Tilaurin | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Marizhavashti Kali | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Jim Sheetz | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | the Falcon | |||
| Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e | Sebastian Lucier |