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From:     Sebastian Lucier <sebastianlucier@???????.com>
Date:     Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:21:52 GMT
Subject:  Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e
To me, it's like being a Superman fan vs being a Batman fan.  Powergamers
are more into an epic, powerful struggle between good and evil.  They live
big, the fight big, they die big.  The superman comic or Star Treck are
powergaming to me.  They are the best, the brightest, the first line of
defense.  I think the disdain of powergaming comes from the fact that it can
be done very badly.  In the hands of a bad gm, it turns into a Power Rangers
type battle in which the winner of a battle is the one with the most "power"
(whatever the hell that means).  Usually the biggest fattest energy blast.
On the other hand of the spectrum are the batman fans.  They're looking for
a gritty realistic story.  A hero who could die from a lucky shot by some
punk with a bow.  Probably it's biggest downfall is that it can turn into an
angst-fest of tragic heroes and an inability to change the world.  White
Wolf tries to walk the line between grittiness and characictures of angst.
I think gritty games tend to be less common in D&D which is why people
complain more about powergaming than angst-gaming.  :)

That's my $.02

Sebastian


>From: "Downer, Chris" <Chris.Downer@?????????.com>
>Reply-To: Discussion list for the Spelljammer campaign setting
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>Subject: Re: [SPELLJAMMER] Dead Worlds & D&D 3e
>Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:53:57 -0500
>
>I don't mind powergaming at all as long as there is roleplaying mixed into
>it.
>
> >
> > I've always been curious about this. I've been playing off
> > and on for twenty
> > years, and played just about every style you can think of.
> > Why is it that
> > many gamers have some esoteric disdain for powergaming? I've
> > had lots more
> > fun playing a cleric/mage with an 18/00 strength (and that's
> > one of his
> > lower stats), than I ever had playing less powerful
> > characters. Of course,
> > since he can eat orcs for breakfast (ewwww, what a gruesome
> > thought), other
> > enemies that match his power more closely tend to gravitate
> > to him. It helps
> > that he is a knight of Aglarond, and a border baron,
> > bordering on Thay....
> >
> > Powergamers unite and come out!
> >
>
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Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    25 Sep 2000 17:46:43
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    26 Sep 2000 02:07:42
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Downer, Chris    27 Sep 2000 15:40:40
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    27 Sep 2000 17:10:30
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Adam Miller    28 Sep 2000 01:45:52
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    28 Sep 2000 02:29:34
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Graf    28 Sep 2000 08:35:27
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    28 Sep 2000 09:56:30
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    28 Sep 2000 14:53:52
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    28 Sep 2000 15:04:02
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    28 Sep 2000 15:18:32
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    28 Sep 2000 15:53:11
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    28 Sep 2000 18:21:03
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Adam Miller    28 Sep 2000 22:43:22
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Adam Miller    28 Sep 2000 22:43:18
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Adam Miller    28 Sep 2000 22:43:15
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    28 Sep 2000 23:46:00
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    David Caveney    28 Sep 2000 23:48:12
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    28 Sep 2000 23:48:56
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    28 Sep 2000 23:52:56
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    28 Sep 2000 23:53:47
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Andrew Tiffany    28 Sep 2000 23:54:30
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    29 Sep 2000 04:38:12
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    29 Sep 2000 04:43:24
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    29 Sep 2000 04:46:03
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    29 Sep 2000 05:03:25
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    29 Sep 2000 05:21:29
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    29 Sep 2000 05:34:17
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    29 Sep 2000 05:40:09
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    29 Sep 2000 08:03:15
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    29 Sep 2000 08:04:58
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    29 Sep 2000 08:25:44
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    29 Sep 2000 08:31:41
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    29 Sep 2000 08:30:34
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    29 Sep 2000 08:41:28
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    29 Sep 2000 08:45:29
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    29 Sep 2000 09:00:20
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    29 Sep 2000 11:09:10
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    avrjoe    29 Sep 2000 11:38:25
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Graf    29 Sep 2000 12:22:04
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    29 Sep 2000 15:41:30
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    29 Sep 2000 15:45:10
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    29 Sep 2000 15:50:04
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    29 Sep 2000 17:56:23
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Jim Sheetz    29 Sep 2000 17:56:07
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Joseph D. Carriker, Jr.    29 Sep 2000 18:16:02
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Downer, Chris    29 Sep 2000 19:33:30
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    David Caveney    29 Sep 2000 21:26:28
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Doubting Eric    29 Sep 2000 21:38:49
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    29 Sep 2000 21:44:23
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    30 Sep 2000 01:02:51
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Adam Miller    30 Sep 2000 15:24:18
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Adam Miller    30 Sep 2000 15:24:25
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    30 Sep 2000 18:04:16
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    30 Sep 2000 18:06:18
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    30 Sep 2000 18:08:54
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Paul Westermeyer    30 Sep 2000 18:17:20
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    john    30 Sep 2000 18:25:30
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    David Caveney    30 Sep 2000 18:21:39
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Joseph D. Carriker, Jr.    30 Sep 2000 18:50:36
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Joseph D. Carriker, Jr.    30 Sep 2000 18:52:27
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Buddy Murphy    30 Sep 2000 19:06:24
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Adam Miller    30 Sep 2000 19:42:29
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    30 Sep 2000 20:57:05
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    30 Sep 2000 21:03:51
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    David Caveney    30 Sep 2000 21:06:14
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    30 Sep 2000 21:10:12
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Adam Miller    01 Oct 2000 00:34:23
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Adam Miller    01 Oct 2000 00:34:26
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Jim Sheetz    01 Oct 2000 02:30:46
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    01 Oct 2000 04:11:42
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    01 Oct 2000 04:20:50
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Graf    01 Oct 2000 08:20:10
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    01 Oct 2000 20:55:45
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Adam Miller    01 Oct 2000 21:32:47
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    01 Oct 2000 22:37:08
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Jim Sheetz    02 Oct 2000 00:20:45
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    02 Oct 2000 00:52:32
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    john    02 Oct 2000 03:07:00
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    02 Oct 2000 04:13:48
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    02 Oct 2000 06:04:44
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    02 Oct 2000 15:35:53
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Downer, Chris    02 Oct 2000 20:53:57
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    02 Oct 2000 21:21:52
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Downer, Chris    02 Oct 2000 21:42:34
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Joseph D. Carriker, Jr.    02 Oct 2000 21:48:29
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    02 Oct 2000 21:59:59
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    02 Oct 2000 22:13:41
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    George Lavalle    02 Oct 2000 22:48:44
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Adam Miller    02 Oct 2000 22:47:12
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    02 Oct 2000 23:08:20
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    George Lavalle    02 Oct 2000 23:36:54
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    02 Oct 2000 23:53:24
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    True Seeker    03 Oct 2000 00:12:20
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    David Knott    03 Oct 2000 00:25:28
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Joseph D. Carriker, Jr.    03 Oct 2000 00:30:31
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    David Knott    03 Oct 2000 01:27:24
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    03 Oct 2000 01:30:46
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Joseph D. Carriker, Jr.    03 Oct 2000 02:08:53
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    03 Oct 2000 02:40:08
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Leroy Van Camp III    03 Oct 2000 03:51:13
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    03 Oct 2000 04:11:13
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    03 Oct 2000 04:13:56
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Tilaurin    03 Oct 2000 04:12:45
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Marizhavashti Kali    03 Oct 2000 04:58:05
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Jim Sheetz    03 Oct 2000 06:08:40
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    the Falcon    03 Oct 2000 14:31:24
Re: Dead Worlds & D&D 3e    Sebastian Lucier    03 Oct 2000 15:37:08

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