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From:     Buddy Murphy <buddy@????????????????.com>
Date:     Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:08:19 -0700
Subject:  Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)
Like you I had some MAJOR reservations about third edition, but I at least
gave it a chance.  I read the PHB when it came out, then the DMG, and then
sat back and gestated on 3E.  I've been playing AD&D longer than I care to
admit, even to myself.  I think this edition has just about the same amount
of change as 1E to 2E, except that they made it more systematic.  In doing
so, they introduced a lot of "openness".

Now I'm not here to "convert" you to the new religion, but for you to have
such a strong opinion leads me to believe that you didn't approach 3E with
open arms(or mind).  Just because you can have a
paladin/ranger/mage/cleric/thief/bard certainly does not mean you would want
to, it would be one of the weakest 6th level characters in the campaign.
Proficiencies have been around since 1E, remember the Survival Guides.  The
new skills and feats system is a cleaned up version of that,  although in my
opinion - still not quite there.  The prestige classes....ever see a 1E bard
?

Look, not everything about 3E is making me smile, but D&D is an evolutionary
game.  When there was just one edition, Dragon magazine would have new
official rules every month, Unearthed Arcana was just a reprint.  I believe
most people will go to 3E, and in turn so will this list.  Not because it is
a better system, but because it is a system that lends itself to "systematic
modification".  And since we all like to change the rules to our liking, 3E
will be the path of least resistance.

Do yourself a favor, at least read 3E, if anything I'm sure you will find
some stuff in there to take back to your 2E campaign(like Domains for
instance).  Give peace a chance...OR I'LL RUN YOU THROUGH !!!!!!!!

> Not for the list, perhaps, but there is for Spelljammer.  Spelljammer is a
> setting designed for the 2nd edition AD&D game.  Those are the rules it is
> designed to follow.  Attempting to bring it into the so-called
> "3rd edition"
> is no different from trying to bring it into GURPS--an
> interesting personal
> sideshow for some people, but hardly in line with the setting.  Scro
> paladin/ranger/mage/cleric/thief/bards are not part of Spelljammer.
> Spelljammer is a no-longer-published setting for a no-longer published
> system.  I've already left one list because of "third edition".  I don't
> particularly want to leave this one, but all discussions
> currently seem to be
> focused on it.


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Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Rian A. McMurtry    02 Oct 2000 05:54:24
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Leroy Van Camp III    02 Oct 2000 13:41:29
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Rian A. McMurtry    02 Oct 2000 15:17:51
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Sebastian Lucier    02 Oct 2000 15:41:54
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Buddy Murphy    02 Oct 2000 17:08:19
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Leroy Van Camp III    02 Oct 2000 17:29:38
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    J E Leinen    02 Oct 2000 18:31:52
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Rian A. McMurtry    02 Oct 2000 19:19:22
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Adam Miller    02 Oct 2000 23:42:42
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    David Knott    03 Oct 2000 01:27:30
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    David Knott    03 Oct 2000 02:25:20
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Tilaurin    03 Oct 2000 04:06:57
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Tilaurin    03 Oct 2000 04:15:40
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Tilaurin    03 Oct 2000 04:16:47
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Paul Westermeyer    03 Oct 2000 04:42:06
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    George Lavalle    03 Oct 2000 04:41:43
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Tilaurin    03 Oct 2000 05:06:05
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    David Knott    03 Oct 2000 05:29:15
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Jim Sheetz    03 Oct 2000 06:38:41
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Tilaurin    03 Oct 2000 09:43:48
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Tilaurin    03 Oct 2000 09:43:07
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Sebastian Lucier    03 Oct 2000 15:39:49
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Sebastian Lucier    03 Oct 2000 15:43:59
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Jim Sheetz    03 Oct 2000 17:38:26
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    True Seeker    03 Oct 2000 22:37:39
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Adam Miller    03 Oct 2000 23:47:49
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Ahzad    04 Oct 2000 02:13:06
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Tilaurin    05 Oct 2000 02:37:58
Re: Back to Products of My Imagination (Dead Worlds & D&D 3e)    Downer, Chris    12 Oct 2000 16:14:50

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