Re: [Re: New Races of SJ, esp Giff]

--- ThatOtherGuy <spellj@???.net> wrote:
>
> Who's to say they aren't like the rock hoppers, only
> as they were encountered
> people found they made excellent troops and so they
> were slowly integrated
> into SJ society.
>
> Another possibility is their symbiotic relationship
> with the dohwar.  The
> dohwar need someone else to defend them but they can
> provide SJ power (and not
> much else).  Thus giff and dohwar left their small
> planetoids and asteroid
> fields and entered arcane space.
>

Cooperation with another race is possible, but in my
mind that leaves them as a "subject" race rather than
as a power in their own right.  Of course, that does
fit in rather well with existing SJ canon, so I might
just go with it myself.  I'll have to mull it over for
a while.

> > different.  IMC, just before the Unhuman War an
> earlier war broke out
> > between 'british' humans and an ogre empire in a
> distant sphere.  The
> > war was brutal, and the humans were having their
> arses handed to them.
> > The giff were created as front line shock troops.
> Things just broke
>
> The "mad wizard creation" idea has been used to many
> times IMO.  Turning it
> around like Krynnish minotaurs, however, would be
> interesting.  Namely ogres
> enslaved them and used them as shock troops against
> the humans.  Their magic
> resistance making them the perfect anti-human troops
> (humans being known to
> rely on powerful spell casters much more than any
> ogre).

The "mad wizard creation" is trite, if over-used.  It
may be that they were, but it should be far from
common knowledge.  In my own campaign the rise and
fall of interstellar nations has happened so many
times that the knowledge of the origins and homeworlds
of most species have been lost to the mists of time,
and so I don't have to worry about how the Giff came
to be (yet.)

Scott McCarroll

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