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From:     steve swenson <scott@??????.????????.com>
Date:     Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:26:24 -0600
Subject:  Re: Magic vs Science
---Reply to mail from TandemArts@???.com about [SPELLJAMMER] - Magic vs Science

>
> It sounds like Steve is saying that magic is science as yet undefined as such.
> I disagree, but understand the viewpoint. I'm saying that if it is called
> magic now because of the process it uses, no matter how scientific or
> unscientific, it will always be magic, even if later somone decides to call it
> science. The practitioners consider it magic because of the process involved,
> not because the people who don't understand it call it so.
>




> Additionally, those same people may later achieve the same thing through
> technology (a different route) and say that magic is a science and will still
> be wrong because it uses a different process. Even if they come to understand
> it. Practitioners have always understood it and still called it magic, even
> though they may argue that it is not so unscientific when faced with scoffs.
> If you're calling it science because it is often scientific or because someone
> makes a science out of it (i.E. Parapsychology or Metaphysics) it doesn't make
> the NON-empirical magic a science because again it uses a different process
> thet inherently relies on and has always relied upon that process which has
> also in turn relied upon that subjective worldview.
> -Kurt


  This reduces the problem to one of semantics.

  If a=b  and b=c  then a=c.  Each is a different letter but each has the
same value at some point making this set of equations true.  Practitioners
may insist its magic (they're not wrong) while later a scientific system
is understood more completely and it is found to behave within definite
rules and so these practioners will insist that it is science (And they
are not wrong either.)


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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
Magic vs Science    Paul Westermeyer    31 Dec 1998 07:20:55
Re: Magic vs Science    Avrjoe@???.com    31 Dec 1998 16:43:36
Re: Magic vs Science    steve swenson    31 Dec 1998 20:20:51
Re: Magic vs Science    Paul Westermeyer    31 Dec 1998 22:45:07
Re: Magic vs Science    steve swenson    31 Dec 1998 23:46:26
Re: Magic vs Science    TandemArts@???.com    31 Dec 1998 23:59:07
Re: Magic vs Science    TandemArts@???.com    01 Jan 1999 00:20:16
Re: Magic vs Science    steve swenson    01 Jan 1999 00:29:36
Re: Magic vs Science    S. Wilson    01 Jan 1999 00:40:13
Re: Magic vs Science    TandemArts@???.com    01 Jan 1999 01:30:25
Re: Magic vs Science    TandemArts@???.com    01 Jan 1999 01:32:24
Re: Magic vs Science    S. Wilson    01 Jan 1999 06:14:35
Re: Magic vs Science    Paul Arnold Stetzel    01 Jan 1999 09:10:26
Re: Magic vs Science    Avrjoe@???.com    01 Jan 1999 10:30:53
Re: Magic vs Science    TandemArts@???.com    01 Jan 1999 18:20:53
Re: Magic vs Science    TandemArts@???.com    01 Jan 1999 18:38:07
Re: Magic vs Science    Paul Westermeyer    01 Jan 1999 23:07:27
Re: Magic vs Science    Paul Arnold Stetzel    02 Jan 1999 08:36:52
Re: Magic vs Science    steve swenson    04 Jan 1999 16:26:24
Re: Magic vs Science    TandemArts@???.com    05 Jan 1999 01:40:15
Re: Magic vs Science    TandemArts@???.com    05 Jan 1999 02:13:35
Re: Magic vs Science    S. Wilson    05 Jan 1999 03:45:12
Re: Magic vs Science    TandemArts@???.com    05 Jan 1999 04:50:37
Re: Magic vs Science    steve swenson    05 Jan 1999 14:38:51
Re: Magic vs Science    Downer, Chris    05 Jan 1999 17:36:52
Re: Magic vs Science    Downer, Chris    05 Jan 1999 19:26:29
Re: Magic vs Science    Paul    05 Jan 1999 23:52:25
Re: Magic vs Science    TandemArts@???.com    06 Jan 1999 02:37:19
Re: Magic vs Science    TandemArts@???.com    06 Jan 1999 02:54:22
Re: Magic vs Science    Paul Westermeyer    06 Jan 1999 03:39:12
Re: Magic vs Science    S. Wilson    06 Jan 1999 06:10:56
Re: Magic vs Science    Paul    06 Jan 1999 23:39:27

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