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From: steve swenson <scott@??????.????????.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:26:24 -0600 Subject: Re: Magic vs Science
---Reply to mail from TandemArts@???.com about [SPELLJAMMER] - Magic vs Science > > It sounds like Steve is saying that magic is science as yet undefined as such. > I disagree, but understand the viewpoint. I'm saying that if it is called > magic now because of the process it uses, no matter how scientific or > unscientific, it will always be magic, even if later somone decides to call it > science. The practitioners consider it magic because of the process involved, > not because the people who don't understand it call it so. > > Additionally, those same people may later achieve the same thing through > technology (a different route) and say that magic is a science and will still > be wrong because it uses a different process. Even if they come to understand > it. Practitioners have always understood it and still called it magic, even > though they may argue that it is not so unscientific when faced with scoffs. > If you're calling it science because it is often scientific or because someone > makes a science out of it (i.E. Parapsychology or Metaphysics) it doesn't make > the NON-empirical magic a science because again it uses a different process > thet inherently relies on and has always relied upon that process which has > also in turn relied upon that subjective worldview. > -Kurt This reduces the problem to one of semantics. If a=b and b=c then a=c. Each is a different letter but each has the same value at some point making this set of equations true. Practitioners may insist its magic (they're not wrong) while later a scientific system is understood more completely and it is found to behave within definite rules and so these practioners will insist that it is science (And they are not wrong either.) --End reply -- +++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++ Steven Swenson ### +++++++ ### Technical Support Specialist #### +++++ #### Texas Micro Inc. ##### +++ ##### (800) 627-8700/(713) 541-8200 x110 ###### + ###### (713) 541-8259 FAX ####### ####### steves@??????????.com ####### ####### scott@??????.????????.com
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| Subject | From | Date (UTC) | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Magic vs Science | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | Avrjoe@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | steve swenson | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | steve swenson | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | TandemArts@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | TandemArts@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | steve swenson | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | S. Wilson | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | TandemArts@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | TandemArts@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | S. Wilson | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | Paul Arnold Stetzel | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | Avrjoe@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | TandemArts@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | TandemArts@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | Paul Arnold Stetzel | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | steve swenson | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | TandemArts@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | TandemArts@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | S. Wilson | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | TandemArts@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | steve swenson | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | Paul | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | TandemArts@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | TandemArts@???.com | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | Paul Westermeyer | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | S. Wilson | |||
| Re: Magic vs Science | Paul |