Re: Crossbows

I think you miss a couple of things here. If you want realism you play games
like  Rolemaster, and maybe even Shadowrun, where the rules are complicated
and really slow down the game. If you want deadly campaigns you play Cthulu or
Paranoia (which I hate both of them). AD&D is a game you play to have fun and
not worry about realism. Laws are for lawyers not for the AD&D game so I don't
stick to them. If I want a PC to kill a opponant quickly the PC will, even  if
the PC does only 3 damage. If I want an NPC to stay alive then I will do so -
the best way of doing that is by having nameless mooks get in front of the
most powerful fighters. Mind you, it is amazing how many 20's you roll when
you have 40 goblins fighting the party. You might have munchkins, but I found
that the powergamer (winger) in my group gets cut down quickly and then goes
off, winges, and creates a new character. Seriously he puts to much effort
into a one dimensional character that is only going to get killed because all
he can say after the battle is "but I didn't get any magic items"

Sorry I rave.

Anyway, as for bullets, you might be surprised about how durable the human
body is. You obviously watch too many movies, but on the news when there is a
maniac shooting away in a shopping center, the death rate is quite low. the
Port Arthur massacre a couple of years ago in australia resulted in a
mortality rate of 37 only because the place was so remote. Bullets kill a lot
less than you would expect them to.

Darryl: I don't think the roof can support a mezzanine.
Steve: Shall I give him a call and tell him not to worry about the Spiral
	Staircase?
The Castle: 1997

On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Harry Bandoian wrote:

> Ya in AD&D you could take a slash to the gut take 20 points of damage
> and still survive the fight! I mean in real life your guts would be all
> over the floor and youd BE DEAD!!!!! But in AD&D high level heros are
> invinceable in real life human (elves draves..etc) are more delicate! I
> mean comeon in real life a guy gets a bullet to the abdomen and dies in
> AD&D a hero gets slashed hacked burned cut and diced and still manages
> to make it out _alive_!!!
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> To: spelljammer@????.com
> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:07:14 -0400
> Subject: [SPELLJAMMER] - Crossbows
> From: yoshi422@????.com (Will A Wagner)
> Reply-To: spelljammer@????.com
>
> You are right, archers are important people. If you ever played WarCraft
> you want to put a line of knights in front of a line of archers. Then,
> by
> the time the orcs get up to the knights they're basically pincushions
> :-)
> Archers lay cover fire for infantry/cavalry, and are really good in
> large
> numbers. For example warcraft again. elven Archers in a group of like 20
> can defend a good sized abse almost by themselves. AD&D is incredibly
> unrealistic, because if someone sticks a longsword in you you take 1d8
> damage , but in the real world you just kinda fall over and die.
> Warcraft
> is like that too, but it has 256-color graphics. :-)
> HawkAngel
> <<I believe that archers were useds as a ! THe archers would distract
> the
>
> knights and footsoldgers, I mean when you have 100 knights charging at
> you swords drawn what do you do call the archers. I mean lets face it
> not all people are like our PCs taking multiple arrow shots to various
> parts of thier bodies, they would fall to the _GROUND_. Like in the
> movies>>
>
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