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From:     Adam Miller <nghtdrud@??????.net>
Date:     Sun, 01 Mar 1998 10:35:45 -0600
Subject:  Re: Create Helm
gaijin@???????.???.net wrote:
>
>         Not to be rude, but why???  Why should they earn twice the XP to level?
> Being non-human shouldn't be a handicap.

	<shrug> The slow learning thing.  Anyways, it has never been an issue
in my game, so we don't really care.
>
>         I wouldn't say lazy.  Just that they don't want to.  Remember when AD&D
> was introduced it was a new thing.  They didn't want to take a chance and
> alienate their market by making it too weird (and their market was pretty
> well saturated with Middle Earth, where Men were taking over, and elves
> were dying out).
>         The D&D worlds are anything but lazy, I just don't think they've pushed
> their imaginations.  Look at the Earthdawn setup for an excellent example
> of a non-humancentric setup.
>
	Doesn't explain why every game they produce is human centric, including
DS, BR, and even SJ.  By the time these games were conceived, they had a
steady market and big profits (then they went belly up:)
	I've seen some Earthdawn stuff.  Seems pretty good, but I don't want to
buy another game right now.

>         The problem is that flitters suck.  They don't carry any weapons, etc. I
> figure a fighter should be smaller than a flitter, and mount at least one
> weapon <G>

	Eek, smaller than a flitter?!  Only heard of one of those: the locus
(which sucks almost as much).  It has major problems of its own.

>         Think of them using the old term for tanks: Weapons Platforms.  A fighter
> is like a mobile gun, and should therefore be designed accordingly.
>
	Might work, but you would not have a very maneuverable ship...then
again, MC never really made since in the SJ construc. system:)

>         The flitter is ok for scouting, especially since it carries a lot of air.
> But as a warship it is impossible.
>         I think the mods required to make a flitter useful as a fighter would be
> more expensive than just designing a fighter type ship.
>
	I agree.  Never understood why under the Armada description it says
that flitters are launched enmass against enemy ships.  Unless their
orcish, the ship outruns them.  The Armada is left with a choice: pick
up flitters and let enemy get away or leave them behind and risk loosing
them in the dangers of space.  (the things got an SR of 2).

>         So, back to Spelljammer: Who has better production facilities, the Scro or
> the Elves???  If the Elves lose a Man O War, how long does it take their
> shipyards to build a new one?  What about the Scro?
>
	Overall, the elves.  They've got control of <at least> three spheres
(Korv, Dannon, Thorn) and power in several more.  Scro got one sphere
(that we know of).  Overall, their facilities are smaller and less
important than that of the elves.
	One big reason I would think the elves won the UWII is because they're
fighting a defensive war on their home turf.  Their supply lines are
very short.  The scro probably had to waste lots of time and effort
securing supply lines and alternate sources of war material.  The elves
didn't need to do this.  Eventually, they wore the scro out
(ironically:)

Night Druid


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Create Helm    kniese@????????.nl    25 Feb 1998 17:14:59
Re: Create Helm    Jimmy    25 Feb 1998 17:45:08
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    25 Feb 1998 19:34:48
Re: Create Helm    Leor Blumenthal    25 Feb 1998 21:08:13
Re: Create Helm    Abe Brown    25 Feb 1998 22:22:39
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    25 Feb 1998 21:45:08
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    26 Feb 1998 04:15:12
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    26 Feb 1998 04:16:18
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    26 Feb 1998 04:36:44
Re: Create Helm    Jeremy G.    26 Feb 1998 05:32:58
Re: Create Helm    Static    26 Feb 1998 15:49:14
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    26 Feb 1998 19:09:36
Re: Create Helm    Static    26 Feb 1998 20:33:28
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    27 Feb 1998 03:38:01
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    27 Feb 1998 03:48:20
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    27 Feb 1998 04:07:22
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    26 Feb 1998 22:02:39
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    27 Feb 1998 13:57:31
Re: Create Helm    Static    27 Feb 1998 15:44:20
Re: Create Helm    Static    27 Feb 1998 16:26:48
Re: Create Helm    Jimmy    27 Feb 1998 18:03:01
Re: Create Helm    Peter Mikelsons    27 Feb 1998 18:03:19
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    27 Feb 1998 21:32:34
Re: Create Helm    Daniel Sheff    27 Feb 1998 21:57:38
Re: Create Helm    Daniel Sheff    27 Feb 1998 22:01:06
Re: Create Helm    Jimmy    27 Feb 1998 22:13:29
Re: Create Helm    Jimmy    27 Feb 1998 22:50:18
Re: Create Helm    Kevin Scardino    27 Feb 1998 22:37:01
Re: Create Helm    steve swenson    27 Feb 1998 23:14:24
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    27 Feb 1998 21:50:09
Re: Create Helm    daqueri    01 Jan 1980 07:25:22
Re: Create Helm    gantr@???.edu    28 Feb 1998 20:25:30
Re: Create Helm    Voidwolf    01 Mar 1998 05:56:48
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    01 Mar 1998 15:11:12
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    01 Mar 1998 15:19:36
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    01 Mar 1998 15:58:21
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    01 Mar 1998 16:35:45
Re: Create Helm    Paul and Kelly Westermeyer    01 Mar 1998 16:43:57
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    01 Mar 1998 17:46:41
Re: Create Helm    Voidwolf    01 Mar 1998 23:58:29
Re: Create Helm    Toby Mekelburg    02 Mar 1998 06:13:20
Re: Create Helm    Toby Mekelburg    02 Mar 1998 06:13:26
Re: Create Helm    Daniel Sheff    02 Mar 1998 06:43:06
Re: Create Helm    daqueri    03 Jan 1980 10:56:32
Re: Create Helm    John McCloud    02 Mar 1998 22:52:07
Re: Create Helm    Mutami    03 Mar 1998 23:07:52
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    04 Mar 1998 00:38:49
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    04 Mar 1998 00:46:44
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    04 Mar 1998 01:14:38
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    03 Mar 1998 21:42:52
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    04 Mar 1998 02:52:28
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    03 Mar 1998 23:52:10
Re: Create Helm    John McCloud    04 Mar 1998 20:23:54
Re: Create Helm    Abe Brown    04 Mar 1998 21:43:06
Re: Create Helm    Abe Brown    04 Mar 1998 21:12:56
Re: Create Helm    Static    04 Mar 1998 22:08:04
Re: Create Helm    Voidwolf    05 Mar 1998 16:22:53
Re: Create Helm    Voidwolf    05 Mar 1998 16:47:16
Re: Create Helm    seeker@???.edu    05 Mar 1998 09:44:16
Re: Create Helm    Jimmy    05 Mar 1998 21:03:35
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    05 Mar 1998 02:44:42
Re: Create Helm    daqueri    06 Jan 1980 13:44:42
Re: Create Helm    Paul and Kelly Westermeyer    06 Mar 1998 02:46:16
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    05 Mar 1998 22:42:50
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    04 Mar 1998 21:31:13
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    04 Mar 1998 22:25:28
Re: Create Helm    Toby Mekelburg    05 Mar 1998 05:41:04
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    06 Mar 1998 15:02:32
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    06 Mar 1998 15:08:02
Re: Create Helm    Static    06 Mar 1998 16:45:36
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    06 Mar 1998 19:34:11
Re: Create Helm    Downer, Chris    10 Mar 1998 23:12:59

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