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From:     gaijin@???????.???.net
Date:     Sun, 01 Mar 1998 09:11:12 -0600
Subject:  Re: Create Helm
>they can use the limit exceeding rules.  If it ever became an issue in
>my game, I would simply have the demi-humans earn twice the experience
>to level up, at most, with no need for high stats.

	Not to be rude, but why???  Why should they earn twice the XP to level?
Being non-human shouldn't be a handicap.

>	Nor do I care for the human centric game.  In all honesty, the reason
>the game is centered around humans is because TSR is lazy.  They don't
>want to be truly creative and fully develop nations/empires for elves,
>dwarves, and the rest.  But that does seem to be changing slightly...

	I wouldn't say lazy.  Just that they don't want to.  Remember when AD&D
was introduced it was a new thing.  They didn't want to take a chance and
alienate their market by making it too weird (and their market was pretty
well saturated with Middle Earth, where Men were taking over, and elves
were dying out).
	The D&D worlds are anything but lazy, I just don't think they've pushed
their imaginations.  Look at the Earthdawn setup for an excellent example
of a non-humancentric setup.

>	Armadas are the only offical carrier class, and they can carry up to 40
>flitters.  Plus 14 heavy weapons aboard the Armada (which can be
>converted to 28 medium weapons, a much better choice, IMO).  That makes
>them, ton for ton, one of the most dangerous class of ships in space.  A
>man-o-war should be able to carry 4-8 flitters with no major problems.

	The problem is that flitters suck.  They don't carry any weapons, etc. I
figure a fighter should be smaller than a flitter, and mount at least one
weapon <G>
	Think of them using the old term for tanks: Weapons Platforms.  A fighter
is like a mobile gun, and should therefore be designed accordingly.


>	Well, the flitter and the arrowhead have been around since the UW war
>(the first one), but some changes have been made since then.  The
>flitter actually is a good ship for elves; its small and highly
>maneuverable, perfect for negotiating the giant living plant planets
>they like to live on.  And their great for launching commando raids.

	The flitter is ok for scouting, especially since it carries a lot of air.
But as a warship it is impossible.
	I think the mods required to make a flitter useful as a fighter would be
more expensive than just designing a fighter type ship.

>	'couse, in WWII, most of the battleships were sunk in Pearl.  All that
>was left of the US navy was 3 carriers and some support.  Really amazing
>that we were able to kick Japan's kester.

	Not really.  <enters history mode>  The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor
was not as secret as they had wished.  The reason that our Aircraft
Carriers weren't at Pearl was because we knew that there would be an
attack.  US high command had realized that battleships were just about
useless.
	Anyway, most of the *US* battleships were sunk at Pearl.  The Japanese
high command (acting against the wishes of Admiral Yamamoto, a truely great
military mind) put its emphisis on battleships, and didn't develop aircraft
carriers.
	So, US aircraft carriers sunk just about every battleship the Japanese
had.  Additionally, while Japan delt us a heavy blow at Pearl, our
production capibality was greater than theirs.  We could replace destroyed
battleships quickly, Japan had (and still has) shortages of raw materials
(which is why they attacked China), and fewer modern factories.  All of
which was pointed out by Yamamoto, and the Japanese high command threatened
to court marshal him...

	So, back to Spelljammer: Who has better production facilities, the Scro or
the Elves???  If the Elves lose a Man O War, how long does it take their
shipyards to build a new one?  What about the Scro?

		Gaijin


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Create Helm    kniese@????????.nl    25 Feb 1998 17:14:59
Re: Create Helm    Jimmy    25 Feb 1998 17:45:08
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    25 Feb 1998 19:34:48
Re: Create Helm    Leor Blumenthal    25 Feb 1998 21:08:13
Re: Create Helm    Abe Brown    25 Feb 1998 22:22:39
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    25 Feb 1998 21:45:08
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    26 Feb 1998 04:15:12
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    26 Feb 1998 04:16:18
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    26 Feb 1998 04:36:44
Re: Create Helm    Jeremy G.    26 Feb 1998 05:32:58
Re: Create Helm    Static    26 Feb 1998 15:49:14
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    26 Feb 1998 19:09:36
Re: Create Helm    Static    26 Feb 1998 20:33:28
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    27 Feb 1998 03:38:01
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    27 Feb 1998 03:48:20
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    27 Feb 1998 04:07:22
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    26 Feb 1998 22:02:39
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    27 Feb 1998 13:57:31
Re: Create Helm    Static    27 Feb 1998 15:44:20
Re: Create Helm    Static    27 Feb 1998 16:26:48
Re: Create Helm    Jimmy    27 Feb 1998 18:03:01
Re: Create Helm    Peter Mikelsons    27 Feb 1998 18:03:19
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    27 Feb 1998 21:32:34
Re: Create Helm    Daniel Sheff    27 Feb 1998 21:57:38
Re: Create Helm    Daniel Sheff    27 Feb 1998 22:01:06
Re: Create Helm    Jimmy    27 Feb 1998 22:13:29
Re: Create Helm    Jimmy    27 Feb 1998 22:50:18
Re: Create Helm    Kevin Scardino    27 Feb 1998 22:37:01
Re: Create Helm    steve swenson    27 Feb 1998 23:14:24
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    27 Feb 1998 21:50:09
Re: Create Helm    daqueri    01 Jan 1980 07:25:22
Re: Create Helm    gantr@???.edu    28 Feb 1998 20:25:30
Re: Create Helm    Voidwolf    01 Mar 1998 05:56:48
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    01 Mar 1998 15:11:12
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    01 Mar 1998 15:19:36
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    01 Mar 1998 15:58:21
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    01 Mar 1998 16:35:45
Re: Create Helm    Paul and Kelly Westermeyer    01 Mar 1998 16:43:57
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    01 Mar 1998 17:46:41
Re: Create Helm    Voidwolf    01 Mar 1998 23:58:29
Re: Create Helm    Toby Mekelburg    02 Mar 1998 06:13:20
Re: Create Helm    Toby Mekelburg    02 Mar 1998 06:13:26
Re: Create Helm    Daniel Sheff    02 Mar 1998 06:43:06
Re: Create Helm    daqueri    03 Jan 1980 10:56:32
Re: Create Helm    John McCloud    02 Mar 1998 22:52:07
Re: Create Helm    Mutami    03 Mar 1998 23:07:52
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    04 Mar 1998 00:38:49
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    04 Mar 1998 00:46:44
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    04 Mar 1998 01:14:38
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    03 Mar 1998 21:42:52
Re: Create Helm    Adam Miller    04 Mar 1998 02:52:28
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    03 Mar 1998 23:52:10
Re: Create Helm    John McCloud    04 Mar 1998 20:23:54
Re: Create Helm    Abe Brown    04 Mar 1998 21:43:06
Re: Create Helm    Abe Brown    04 Mar 1998 21:12:56
Re: Create Helm    Static    04 Mar 1998 22:08:04
Re: Create Helm    Voidwolf    05 Mar 1998 16:22:53
Re: Create Helm    Voidwolf    05 Mar 1998 16:47:16
Re: Create Helm    seeker@???.edu    05 Mar 1998 09:44:16
Re: Create Helm    Jimmy    05 Mar 1998 21:03:35
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    05 Mar 1998 02:44:42
Re: Create Helm    daqueri    06 Jan 1980 13:44:42
Re: Create Helm    Paul and Kelly Westermeyer    06 Mar 1998 02:46:16
Re: Create Helm    Wilson, M.D.    05 Mar 1998 22:42:50
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    04 Mar 1998 21:31:13
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    04 Mar 1998 22:25:28
Re: Create Helm    Toby Mekelburg    05 Mar 1998 05:41:04
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    06 Mar 1998 15:02:32
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    06 Mar 1998 15:08:02
Re: Create Helm    Static    06 Mar 1998 16:45:36
Re: Create Helm    gaijin@???????.???.net    06 Mar 1998 19:34:11
Re: Create Helm    Downer, Chris    10 Mar 1998 23:12:59

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