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From: gantr@???.edu Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: IEN Fascists?
On Tue, 3 Feb 1998 Magistar2@???.com wrote: > An evil person killing anything is an evil act, I'll agree with this statement. An evil individual who kills is most likely motivated by evil, so his actions are still evil. Doing a seemingly good act (such as killing a fiend) for evil reasons is still evil. > a nuetral person killing from either side of the scale is an evil act. I don't agree. It depends on the motivations. A true neutral individual (such as a druid) who kills will probably be doing it to maintain the balance of good and evil (if he believes in that sort of thing), or in self-defense. His motives are unlikely to be good or evil, but they could be (in which case the killing becomes either a good or an evil act). > Good killing evil is not an evil act. Again, this depends on the person's motives. A Paladin who kills a goblin in self defense (or to protect others) has performed a good act. A Paladin who kills a goblin just because he can (or because he wants experience points, or the goblin's treasure, or something else) has just committed an evil act. > Look at the war system with the world. Good is alied with all nonevil, > in a sense. Nuetral is aligned with good, and evil has no friendship, they > bite their tails. In reverse order: Evil tends not to have friendships. You're right there. They do have alliances, mutual defense pacts, etc. There is no real long-term trust, though. Evil, posessing a "social darwinist" mentality, will tend to turn on it's allies eventually. But not until the cost of maintaining that alliance becomes greater thatn the cost of not having that alliance. Neutral isn't really aligned with either side, being perceived as untrustworthy. Balancers (individuals who believe in the balance between good and evil) are a prime example of this. When evil has the upper hand, the balancer will work with good to restore the balance. Once the balance swings toward good, the balancer will then work with evil to restore the balance. Of course, balancer is only one type of neutral. The other type is selfish neutrality. Selfish neutrals care nothing for good or evil, only for themselves. These types are considered just as untrustworthy. Good-aligned individuals are ultimatly only allied with other good-aligned individuals. They will accept help from anyone who wishes to give it, but will try to convert them to the cause of goodness. If the non-good individual refuses to change, they will ultimatly be punished for their non-good behavior. Rich Gant
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| Subject | From | Date (UTC) | ||
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| IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Toby Mekelburg | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Paul and Kelly Westermeyer | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Bill McCrimmon | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Paul and Kelly Westermeyer | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kevin Scardino | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Toby Mekelburg | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kelly St.Clair | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | cowboybd@???????.??.??-??????.de | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | John McCloud | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Areus | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | DiabloChico | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Voidwolf@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Sue Brown | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kevin Scardino | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris |